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Honest Storytelling: Chase McDaniel's Journey from Hometown Hero to Rising Star
Let's do this. We are live. Hello everybody, and what's up? Yeah, welcome back. It's another episode of Skip Happens. You know it's the podcast where we talk all things country music. You're gonna love this man. You know life on the road. We're gonna find out about that, the stories behind the songs. I'm your host, skip Clark, you know that, and we always bring you the best in country music. And tonight we've got a special guest, a rising star, who's been making waves Powerhouse vocals. You'll find out, you'll hear him and go holy crap. Honest storytelling and undeniable country grit. I love the grit part of it too. And if you haven't heard, uh, his music yet, well, you're about to become a fan real quick. Uh, please welcome. He's uh sitting right over here. If I hit the right button you're gonna be able to see him. It's chase mcdaniel, yo hey what's up, man?
Speaker 2:good to be here. Hey, welcome to the pod zone. Dude, this is sick brother. This is amazing. I have to ask have?
Speaker 1:you ever been like invited to somebody's house to go do the podcast? This is first. This is amazing stuff. I have to ask have you ever been like invited to somebody's house to go do the podcast? This is first this is first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is awesome. This is this is it. This is the real deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is killer you know, I love it. This is my, uh, my little heaven, oh yeah to speak a man cave. I don't know if that's the proper word to use nowadays.
Speaker 2:I can get behind it, get behind it, I hope heaven looks a little bit like this oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, this has happened to me. Yeah, this is heaven to me. So, hey, I do want to welcome you officially to the pod zone. Good stuff going on. As you can see, he's right there. I know the cameras are kind of kind of funky. There you are. There you are.
Speaker 2:How long you've been growing that hair, dude uh, since I couldn't afford a haircut, so um you're honest.
Speaker 1:That's why it comes. Honest storytelling. I totally get that probably 2018. Yeah, can you um tell us a little bit about your background and how you got started in country music?
Speaker 2:yeah, so growing up, um, my great grandpa was just a huge bluegrass fan. So you know he would go to this place called renfro valley in kentucky and he would bring me back guitar picks and things like that. And the first CD he ever got me was Josh Turner's Long Black Train and he was like I want you to learn this song and sing it for a family reunion.
Speaker 2:And I was like eight years old I had no bass in my voice or anything, but I just got hooked on that record. I mean I just played it. It was the first piece of music I could call mine, you know. And um, then my other papaw sang bass in a gospel quartet and so there was really there wasn't really any live music in Kentucky, like we were a dry County, so like to go to a bar or to go to a venue like that was like hours away. So the only live music I knew was bluegrass gospel. That was in the church, and so those first records were Josh Turner, randy Travis, youvis, you know, keith whitley. And then in I think it was like fourth grade, I traded a pack of pokemon cards for an acdc record and then I found rock and roll shook me all night long.
Speaker 2:Baby, yeah, a little tnt it was the back in black record. Yeah, the back was black. It was. Yeah, it was definitely one of those songs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they still play it today go to a wedding I guarantee you're gonna hear about um. You shook me all night long?
Speaker 2:yeah, I was. I remember being like nine and trying to figure out what he was saying and being like, did he just say american thighs? Like I'm trying to put it together because, like, when you're not, you're like you. I hadn't heard lyrics like that before right like I'm hearing gospel lyrics and all of a sudden there's a song where there it's uh, you know what do they call it? Not safe for work I love it um.
Speaker 1:You know you have that josh turner sound, oh cool I mean, you've got that baritone, you've got the bass going. Now I don't know when you said you didn't have it at the age of eight and that's probably not, but still, but still, I could do. You do any of that like long black train in any of your sets at all, just because you have that voice, not anymore, I think but you did well, yeah, when I was like a teenager, I would go?
Speaker 2:I'd go around town. My papa would have me going church to church singing long black train or um, they would have probably called me the josh turner impersonator of greensburg, kentucky, when I was 16 17 years old. That's a good thing, though. Well, I wasn't good at it. I was the only kid doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, somebody was doing it, it was you. That's what matters.
Speaker 2:If there was a demand, I was the only one offering the supply.
Speaker 1:Chase McDaniel, let me ask what inspired you to pursue a career in country music?
Speaker 2:I just loved country music more than anybody I knew, growing up in a small town called Greensburg and it was a country music town, so everyone loved country music, but still I think I loved it more than anybody there. So you know, I burned those records up like just you wouldn't believe. I just connected to music in a way that didn't make sense to anybody other than me. My grandparents took me in when I was a kid and my papa would sing. I wanted to be like my papa. He was my hero, he'd sing in these churches and so I wanted to learn songs just to sing in church. Then I got a car, got a radio and before you know it I was wanting to sing country songs that fit my voice. I always had that, you know, thick kentucky accent. You know, when I moved to nashville people always asked me boy, you from alabama, yeah, like you from around here or something, and I'm from kentucky. So, um, not too far up the road, but um, well, yeah, I can tell.
Speaker 1:If music doesn't work out for you, which I don't think that's going to be an issue here um, from what I've heard already and what I've seen, but you could be a voiceover talent, you could be a voiceover artist. You look at john down there. He's agreeing. Now here's the guy that's with you all the time and this guy, he's got the voice too, man I mean he's.
Speaker 2:I try to get him to sing, but he won't do it. But no look at how quiet he is, but he's got that, he's got that grab, he's's got that. You're Louisiana, right, arkansas, arkansas.
Speaker 1:He's got that. Arkansas. I'm from Arkansas, yeah, exactly. So if I am, your hometown, is what? Again? Greensburg?
Speaker 2:Kentucky.
Speaker 1:So I'm driving down the road and I drive into Greensburg. What will be the first thing?
Speaker 2:I'll see A lot of nothing, a lot of nothing, it's okay. It's okay. A whole lot of nothing, it's okay, it's okay. You, uh, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1:Stop sign. It's got to be a grocery store or something.
Speaker 2:We actually are just now getting a grocery store. I saw that on Facebook today. Well, um, cause we used to have to go to Walmart in Camelsville, which was 10 miles down the road. Um, so, first thing, there was a McDonald's, there was a stoplights. The schools are big there, so, like you know, we've got there. Everybody's into the high school football, baseball. Oh, you know basketball teams. My brother is a senior this year and they were ranked six in the state in basketball and so that was like the whole county shut down for them.
Speaker 2:Man, like that well, that's cool it is man, it was just, you know, hometown support, so uh, but yeah, we had a mcdonald's. We had a least famous recipe which I've only ever seen in Kentucky.
Speaker 1:A Least.
Speaker 2:What it's a chicken house, we could just call it the chicken house we call it the chicken house. So you go there, you get fried chicken with some sweet tea and a Dairy Queen.
Speaker 1:Everybody's got a DQ. Come on, everybody's got a DQ and that's about it. No, that's hometown, yeah, uh, that means more than anything yeah, absolutely, you know and everybody knows everybody, somebody needs something, somebody's there to help, both good and bad, which is really good. So I want to hear a little bit about your song burn down heaven.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so tell us about that yeah, I'm like I was raised by my grandparents. You know, like I said, my grandparents took me when I was 10 or 11 years old. So I go back home often, you know, to see mamaw and papaw. My mamaw, papaw are mom and dad. So, uh, they're 82, 83 and, uh, my papaw was a preacher of a country church growing up.
Speaker 2:So, um, he always has these like little aphorisms and stuff and things that he'll say that I'm like dang, that's a, it's a country song. You know, I gotta hear, I gotta write that down. And so one weekend I was back home and he said, you know, I think I would turn down heaven for your mamaw, meaning that if he had the chance to live forever and never say goodbye, that he would take that opportunity over going to heaven. And so I sat down with my guitar one night when I got back to Nashville trying to write a love song called Turn Down Heaven and realized that that wasn't my story. I was trying to write someone else's story, and which you do as a songwriter sometimes. And and well, I, as I was playing my guitar, I accidentally said the phrase burn down heaven by accident. And so, uh, you know the way I was brought up. It felt like lightning had struck my body.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, I shouldn't have said that one. And um, you know, like I had done something wrong or something you know, and and so. But I sat with it for a second. I thought, you know well, maybe my subconscious is trying to tell me something. What does that mean? And um, it took me back to a time in my life where, uh, I felt like I had done something unforgivable, like I had done the worst thing imaginable, which would be burning down heaven, you know, and I had done the worst thing imaginable, which would be burning down heaven. And I thought when is it in my life when it felt like God and all the angels were pointing their finger at me like I had just done something wrong? And it was when I had hurt somebody that I really cared about and truly it was me that had it forgiven me. I hadn't forgiven myself, and so writing the song was, I think, the beginning process of me forgiving myself for that and for a whole lot more.
Speaker 1:you know it's the meaning. It goes deeper. You hear it and you think one thing, but the reality is it goes a lot deeper.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's I get it. Yeah, I get it. It's funny. Tyler, our producer over there, just kind of. I think he's kind of starstruck right now because and I'll tell you why I have a little bit of a story when I he goes. Okay, who do we have on the podcast tonight? And I said, well, chase mcdaniel's gonna stop over and he goes wait, big machine, yeah, he goes.
Speaker 2:He's on my playlist. Oh, that's awesome playlist, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I just you know he's like he was over here in two minutes, come on no, thank you so good, he uh, and Tyler helps me out a lot.
Speaker 1:But let's talk about your musical style. How would you explain that to somebody that does not know you? Yeah, somebody says hey, tell me about your musical style. What would you tell them?
Speaker 2:I would say, if you put Josh Turner and ACDC in a room together and told them to, figure it out.
Speaker 1:No, I would like to hear that that could be really something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, it's country, it's a little bit of rock and roll and it's just, it's honest. I think the lyrics are some of the most vulnerable things that I could say. They're all true stories about my life and you know I'm on a mission in country music. You know I'm on a mission to you know, to share the things that I've personally struggled with. You know the things that my family has gone through, the things that I've went through that you know, growing up in a small town, like I did, we didn't talk about. And so you know, I think the reason I wanted to be an artist, or the reason that that itch was inside me, was because I loved country music so much and I never heard my story me was because I loved country music so much and I never heard my story. And so I think that is what caused me to become a writer. Was that in order for my story to be represented, I had to write it myself. Wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Now, do you write a lot by yourself or do you team up with others and go to writer's nights and do all that? Yeah, both.
Speaker 2:Both I started out for years writing by myself. I only really recently started writing with other people and you know I've got some amazing co-writers. My producer on my record coming out in August his name is Lindsey Rimes. He's just absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2:He's worked on Nate Smith's record and done a lot of his stuff and so we linked up and we got a really awesome song one day and a lot of his stuff and, and so we linked up and we got a really awesome song one day, and then I was like oh, I think we should maintain this friendship? How long?
Speaker 1:have you been playing?
Speaker 2:oh uh, eight, yeah well yeah, yeah, I think I probably sang in church for the first time when I was about 12, maybe and um, and then after that I think I took a couple breaks here and there, and then after that I think I took a couple of breaks here and there and then you know probably really when really my first gig? I was 15. My papaw took me to this place called uh, it was Lincoln Jamboree.
Speaker 1:You still remember that.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's awesome. And, um, there was a guy there. It was kind of like a small town Opry type deal that's what they were trying to try to do and so you'd go in there's like a theater, you know and the folks would come in, they get dinner, they get dinner and a show, and so he'd pay you 50 bucks, this thing for about four hours. But you had to impress the guy, he had to impress him, and so he took me in there one day backstage and he said, you know, here's my grandson, he likes to sing and I really like to help him. You know, get on the show here. And he said, well, what can he sing? And so he said we'll play him um, folsom Prison Blues. And so, you know, at 15 I'm singing Johnny Cash, and he's like, well, all right. And then he let me, uh, hop on the show at school and 50 bucks at 15 years old is a lot of money gas in the tank.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right yeah maybe, maybe a little bit of gas in the tank gas in the tank and a movie theater ticket. Yeah, there you go, there you go. That's pretty cool. Tell me about the uh, your debut album, the lost ones yeah.
Speaker 2:So lost ones is the is one, it's a, it's a title to one of my favorite songs on the album, and then two, it's the title of the album so coming out in august. Um, so lost ones is the theme, it's the template of everything that I've been writing and really just my life story up to this point. You know, um, like I said, my grandparents took me in when I was a kid and that was because my dad was an addict, um, and gave me everything that you know you could, uh, that you should have as a kid. You know it was unconditional love there, it was safety, it was, you know, taught me to go chase my dreams. That you know it was. It was a good time at my mom and papa's house, um, you know.
Speaker 2:That being said, you know there were early scars, there were things that, um, that I saw, that I went through that, uh, you wouldn't wish on any kid.
Speaker 2:And and so, you know, as I got older and and really even then, you know, I struggled with things like mental health.
Speaker 2:You know, I I most of my life I have been battling with the dark side of my mind and so, um, you know that all kind of came to a head and, um, one night I was, uh found myself standing over a bridge at three in the morning in Louisville, kentucky, feeling like I couldn't make it another day alive, when a guy pulled me back over and uh told me that I was important, told me that I mattered, and told me that I had to keep fighting because I'd made it so far.
Speaker 2:And you know how could this be any different? I got to keep going today, and so my mission is to travel the country and to write these songs and sing these songs and to spread that same message to people who are, whether they're on their last day, or they're going through a hard time, or they don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have been fortunate enough to have had this connective thread lead me to this incredible place, this arrival to where I'm chasing my dream right now, and things are going pretty good right now, and I feel good right now in my head and in my soul, and so if.
Speaker 2:I can take a little bit of that, go back into the tunnel and tell everybody that, hey, it doesn't have to end here, it can get better. That's what I'm doing is I'm out to, I'm out to find the lost how old?
Speaker 1:how old were you when you went through that episode, for example, being on the bridge and all that? How?
Speaker 2:old were you? It was, it was for years, but the bridge incident I think I was probably 21 maybe 22 a lot of stuff going through your mind at that age.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of stuff, yeah and my dad.
Speaker 2:We had just lost my dad. Um, oh geez, he had been an addict for 17 years and he eventually just decided that he was done himself. So and that was. I'm so sorry. Well, thank you, but you know, so in my family we just that was something that we didn't know how to process my grandparents. They lost two sons One was my uncle and then the one that was my dad.
Speaker 2:So, but I'm growing up in this house that has just, you know, it's been bombarded with grief and you know I didn't know what to do with that, I think, and so I think my brain just did what any brain would do and it tried to protect me. My brain was trying to protect me, but I didn't recognize it as that and, um, and I found myself in some really dark moments. But you know, I I think that there's the light at the end of the tunnel, of that is that I can now tell people hey, um, you're not alone, right, I have seen the other side and, and you know I've been, I've been there to where it felt like no one could possibly feel this bad. It doesn't make sense that anyone else in the world has ever felt like this before. There's no way, but I did. I felt like that. My brain was that sick and then I still got to the other side and I just want to tell people that's possible no, and did you feel like nobody could tell you different?
Speaker 1:yeah, absolutely, I went through a lot of that. Yeah, many, many, many years ago, not off a bridge, but yeah, same idea. Yeah and um, but you don't realize. I mean, I had people tell me, tell me all sorts of stuff and I didn't want to listen to them. Yeah, I didn't care. Yeah, but uh, I know we're in the pod zone now, but that that young lady right upstairs saved my life, oh, wow, and that's how we became who we are. Yeah and uh, just yeah. So I mean, I I get all choked up talking about it.
Speaker 1:But hearing it from you and the stories and they're not stories, it's real life, it's real life and I don't think there's anybody that doesn't go through any. I don't think you could have the best marriage you could have. You still have these demons that are there. Yeah, and I'm getting all the chicken noodles here, but it's yeah, they're there. And to hear it from somebody like you that you know, you've been through it, you've lost loved ones, you've seen addiction. Look where you are now. You're on the verge of being a star.
Speaker 2:Well, you are.
Speaker 1:You're putting music out to radio, it is awesome. I mean mean good example is you know tyler over there, he's looking, always looking for good music and he's got great taste and when you know. So you have made I'm using tyler as an example here but you have made, uh, an example of yourself saying, hey, I can do this, and other people that you know maybe somebody's going to be watching this or somebody listening to this will hear the story and know that, yeah, there is another side.
Speaker 2:I really don't give up.
Speaker 1:I really hope so. Wow, man, we just got pretty deep.
Speaker 2:And I think that that's good, I think that that's okay. You know I try to, as I'm doing this, I want to encourage those conversations, you know, because, uh, when those conversations aren't had, there's no progress to be made. You know, like when, the, when the truth is locked inside of you and can't go anywhere else, it's. You know, we we wrote a song recently, um, you know it's going to be on the album. It's called mind on fire and it's just kind of this, it's the story. It's it's that. And uh, you know, uh, one of my friends in the room, brett warren, he's also in recovery the Warren Brothers, yeah, and.
Speaker 2:I love those guys. Oh my God, they're so amazing. Oh my God, who doesn't? We've got stories about the Warren.
Speaker 1:Brothers, let me tell you he's incredible.
Speaker 2:Well, he said this line as we were talking. That's something that he heard in recovery. He said you're only as sick as your secrets and I said we got to put that in a song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, and so we ran upstairs as fast as we could and we wrote that song in probably 45 minutes, you know, and finished. The song called Mind on Fire and it's just so true. You know the more that you have locked inside the moment that you can be honest. You know, when that guy pulled me back over no-transcript, as painful as it was, it was like a weight had been lifted for the first time too.
Speaker 1:So you know, that kind of leads me to ask this question about the album, and you're talking about that song that's going to be on the album, would you say that's a one that holds a very special place in your heart, especially meaningful to you more than some of the other ones.
Speaker 2:Well, I think they're all good. I'm sure they all have something to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure they all have something to them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so. You know well, the ones that are going to mean the most to me are the ones that you know, I think are just were underrepresented in my personal listening. You know, growing up, and so the ones that you know talk more about the internal struggles of the mind, the soul, whatever those are always going to be. You know my favorites, yeah.
Speaker 1:Burned down heaven. We talked about that a little bit, but it's already getting attention. I know your label has been uh in touch with me about that song and they're doing a great job, by the way, just so you know uh they're awesome. Yeah, I know you do and think about everybody that's on your, not only your team, but look at the label that you're working with and the artists that are on that label. My God Pretty humbling yeah.
Speaker 1:I'd be like, Holy shit, somebody pinched me. But how does it feel knowing that your music is really starting to hit a lot of people?
Speaker 2:Well, it's, it's kind of this. It's just, I didn't expect it. To be honest, you know, I I wrote songs, I think, to ease my mind. That was that was my goal, was to just feel better. Um, and then the most amazing thing happened was I found out that, you know, I'm not alone. And and there are so many people, uh, that connect with this and it's it's really really powerful, really cool.
Speaker 1:So release? What's the date of that?
Speaker 2:it's august something, yeah, yeah, they could probably tell you better than I could.
Speaker 1:I'm looking at your team over there.
Speaker 2:Part of your team the one person that's here from the team it was hard enough to write the song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know how long did it take you to write all those songs? Um, I I took pretty quick, and others correct?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, so I mean this is. I've been working on these my whole life, so you know some of these I started, started and left and came back to, and others you know I wrote, you know in less than an hour or so, but I took off most of the year touring last year to just focus on writing this album.
Speaker 1:Yeah had to get it done. Yeah, had to get it done, putting them all in the closet.
Speaker 2:So when the time is ready.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's right. When the cool and uh, you know what's gonna. What's next for you after the album release? You're gonna be hitting some tours. You're gonna be going out do you know of anything? That's uh. Chase mcdaniel's gonna be on tour with whoever, whatever, wherever.
Speaker 2:Yet I don't know anything yet, but uh, well, you're with big machine, I'm sure there's big things coming. So yeah, but I'm excited for the album to come out, excited for the you know as many people uh in the world who want to hear it, to hear these songs.
Speaker 1:I love that man. So when you're not playing music, what do you do?
Speaker 2:Ooh, that's a great question. Um, let's see, when I'm not playing music, I love to go fishing when I get the chance. Uh, I've been in Nashville now for nine years and I was going to ask how long you were there.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So you know I love to go back home. You know I go back home to see mamaw and papaw as often as I can and uh, you know that's, the busier you get, the harder that gets. But you know, even a couple weekends ago, in the middle of radio tour, I made my way back home to see mamaw, papaw for the weekend. So, uh, I stop in there, I hang out and see, see friends how does the uh, the hometown treat you?
Speaker 1:are you being, I mean the hometown radio? I mean maybe the 12 or 15 people in your town. That, no, I'm kidding. But, still your hometown radio and all that. Look what you're doing. How do they treat you? Are they playing you? Are they getting you out and saying hey, chase McDaniel, he's our hometown guy?
Speaker 2:It's pretty cool man, I love it. I go back home.
Speaker 1:Kind of float.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, my hometown is is really amazing and you know there's, there are so few places. Uh, you know that that I can go and not know somebody, or had went to school with somebody, or somebody's daughter or cousin knows me, and so you know I'll pull, I'll go to the drive-thru at the chicken house and you know I get a sweet tea and I'll go to the drive-thru at the chicken house and you know I get a sweet tea.
Speaker 1:I'll never forget that. Now it's going to be, we'll go to the chicken house and we're taking pictures and stuff.
Speaker 2:So it is really cool. And you know, I went home to my brother's ball game. They had like a rivalry game going on.
Speaker 1:Oh, basketball, you were telling me that right, yeah, and the they had played my songs over the. How does that feel? It's pretty wild, to be honest.
Speaker 2:I wasn't expecting that you were there. They knew I was there. Okay, yeah, I've heard. I've heard them saying I don't know that this is true or not somebody was telling me that they used one of my songs during the uh, the interchange in the baseball and football games and stuff like that like. But it was cool to be there and you know like that that's my high school, though you know. So to feel that you know what I'm doing isn't embarrassing them at the very least is cool.
Speaker 1:Come on, dude, I'm just just chatting with you and being a radio guy and doing what I do, and I hear your voice. It's just I don't know, dude, it's, there's something good about that. I mean just that.
Speaker 2:Just that, you know, just chatting just chatting, yeah, let alone once we hear a couple of songs here um, well, your, your, your, your awesome room is maybe just making it, you know, magical. You got a magical room here, brother it is magical.
Speaker 1:You need to tell others about this. You know you gotta live that, so, um, I'm trying to think. So when you're home're home, do you drive a?
Speaker 2:pickup. I drive a Honda right now. Yeah, so I had a GMC.
Speaker 1:I try to guess what an artist drives, and I'm wrong every single time.
Speaker 2:I had a GMC that I had to change the engine twice, and so I literally got on Consumer Reports what's the most reliable vehicle in the world? And I found the Honda Civic. They are, though. But they're also one of the most stolen vehicles.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't know that wow, yeah, yeah, they're so tiny, people come up and take them, uh, but no, it's always I. I always try to guess. When I interview an artist, it's like, okay, I'm gonna guess. It's uh, okay, you got a silverado. It's 1500. You know, nope got a key. Yeah, yeah, you know, that's nope got a nissan yeah, you know it's like oh, okay, okay, and what year?
Speaker 2:uh, I think it's uh, 2012, yeah you know, yeah, some of you know some of us are trying to get good gas mileage, you know no, no, and you should, and you should what was, uh, like one of your first jobs ever, my first job was at burger king. Uh yeah, my papa woke me up on my 16th birthday. He said, hey, wake up, you're late, and was like, what are you talking about? He threw me my uniform.
Speaker 3:He's like I got you a job at Burger King.
Speaker 2:So my papa. He was a teacher in my hometown too. He was at the local university there and so he was well renowned there. He was everyone's favorite teacher, just this brilliant guy. So he would go to burger king. Uh, once he retired and read books for like six to eight hours a day and so he knew all the staff at burger king and he's like hey, I got a grandson just turned 16. He needs a job. They're like we'll bring him in. So he threw me my uniform and said you're late, so so um I'm looking at some of the comments here.
Speaker 1:Uh, do you have a kentucky fried chicken? Jason kranz, you know jason by chance.
Speaker 2:He he's a radio guy in the midwest yeah, yeah, so we have one in camelsville, which is 10 miles from my hometown, and so it's interesting. So green county is, greensburg is my hometown, where I went to school, camelsville is where my mom and papa all live, so I would go back and forth. And the crazy thing about this is that I grew up on the time zone.
Speaker 1:Change the line are Are you like right there? Yes, so if you go one way, you're an hour behind. You go the other way and it's like crap. I don't know what time it is. Am I late? Am?
Speaker 2:I early Bingo. So Campbellsville was on Eastern time, greensburg was on Central time. We called it fast time and slow time. I never knew it as anything else. So when I went to school, when I went to college, I asked my professor is that test on fast time or slow time? And he's like are you stupid? What are you doing? Maybe you shouldn't go to this school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I get where you're coming from, yeah yeah, but I literally, when I got a smartphone, my phone would change time zones from one side of the house to the other side of the house. That's how bad it was.
Speaker 1:So you never knew what time you were in be in the living room and it's noon yeah, go to the kitchen.
Speaker 2:It's one o'clock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was confusing, man you know, sarah uh is saying please come to syracuse, um, sarah, he's sitting right here, he's here, um, but uh, how cool. But uh, you know, we'd love to get you here absolutely I would love to put you in front of a lot of fans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as you know, the way I always say when it comes to radio, in the relationship with the artist and putting you on that stage, it's it's always one fan at a time. We build with that and it's the same thing for radio. That's what we do one fan at a time.
Speaker 1:I love that man, or maybe, in your case, 10 fans at it you're doing really well, let's see what else we have here before we, uh, uh, move on, but I don't know what's going on. Do, do so. You like the pod zone? Huh, sorry about the pizza. We didn't have the pizza tonight. No, okay, we're good.
Speaker 2:So, uh, somebody says you're a cutie well, they need to get their eyes checked. Uh, there's probably not. Now that I look at it, I think that's my neighbor it is, it's maria.
Speaker 1:Oh man, it's funny because, um, I love this neighborhood and I don't know about you, I'm this I was great as people walking dogs and it's nighttime that's what it is, and there's two streets in this neighborhood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, you saw uh rossi, our dog when you came in, who attacked you. Uh, but in a good way, beautiful. But it's a neighborhood where everybody, probably like you in your small town, where everybody knows each other and everybody helps each other, and it's like you know, hey, how are you? The sun is out, everybody's out in their yard. Yeah, you know, yeah, in the middle of december, february, january, we don't see anybody. But uh, well, dude, we don't blame them.
Speaker 2:We get a lot of snow yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't see a lot of snow. I know, james over there, a lot. For example, we will get a foot of snow overnight. School bus still goes by in the morning because we have the equipment to handle the roads. The men and women do a great job here, but we get what they call lake effect snow have you?
Speaker 3:ever heard of that? No, I've not heard of that, didn't think so?
Speaker 1:Because, we're so close to Lake Ontario I'm not a meteorologist, but we are so close to Lake Ontario that when you get a cold wind that blows across the lake, it comes from the northwest, it picks up the moisture from the lake and dumps it all on syracuse, this whole part of new york state. So, for example, we could get uh, I know one town got one snowfall, got over six feet, oh my god, and that was just over this past winter. Wow, yeah, wow, yeah, it's just amazing. It's just amazing. That's crazy, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:But back to the music well, I was gonna say we went up to main uh a few weeks ago and I'd never been that far north before and it was my first time seeing snow up to the mailboxes. Yeah, so like all you could see was the box, not the actual. It was the pole.
Speaker 1:As you pulled into the pod zone here, the mailbox at the end of the driveway, it was over that. Wow, it was over that, but the thing is it goes away fast.
Speaker 2:Worry about flooding, so oh wow, you know, think about that, yeah, the water's got to go somewhere.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. Really nuts, really nuts. So what? What sports you like?
Speaker 2:basketball yeah, I well, I grew up playing football all my life and then, um, also, I did competitive weightlifting. So I know that's like really random, yeah, but uh, my, my grandpa and my dad did it and and so, um, I did that most of my life. The football team would do it in the offseason as they get all the football teams in the state together and you just see who could outbench and deadlift How'd your school do Football.
Speaker 2:We did pretty good, Not too bad. I was better at the weightlifting than I was at football In my weight class. I did pretty good. I went on to college to do that and did a clean jerk. One day I caught the weight wrong or something.
Speaker 1:You call it a clean, jerk.
Speaker 2:A clean and jerk. Yeah, you pick it up, you throw it all the way to your shoulders. You stand up and then you throw it over your head.
Speaker 1:Sounded kind of obscene. I didn't know what a clean jerk was.
Speaker 2:It's not the best name for what it is. You've got to be careful.
Speaker 1:Do you still work out, though, is that? Something in your routine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wish I could, but I had that injury. I passed out and I hit my head. I woke up in a casket machine. I was like 19 when that happens. I had horrible amnesia. I didn't know who I was. I did the real deal concussion and so um yeah, I didn't realize how bad of an effect that had on me until I. You know, every time I went to the gym I had to run out after about 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:I was, like you know, gotta get in the the yips, I think so I do have to ask about your routine a little bit, because here we are it's in the evening, or you know, we're in the pod zone but on a radio tour. Most, if not, well, probably pretty much all of them maybe a few in the afternoon, but most are in the morning. Don't you go in and like, hey, we're here 7 am, yeah, all happy with your guitars and ready to the player hit, and yeah, shake hands and meet everybody from music directors to program directors to station owners. I mean, how is that? How do you do it? I'm enjoying it. It's called a radio tour. For those of you watching that don't know. Uh, I know because I've been doing this radio thing for a long time. But it's called a radio tour. We meet artists like chase. How do you do it?
Speaker 2:um, well, we're in, probably, you know, two or three cities a day and um I I am personally afraid of planes, like I used to love planes.
Speaker 1:I used to love flying if you watch the news, I don't blame you, because now they there seems to be more and more and more. You know planes using a taxiway for a runaway, another one clips its wing as it's landing and one rolled over. It's like, and that was right around crs time yeah, because I was on a regional jet and I'm going just stay up, that's right. That's right.
Speaker 2:I remember that, yeah, so I was like I'm sorry, no, I was gonna say well, I, I think I was, I had flight anxiety before. It was cool before before. Everybody else said you know what? Me too? But I, I it's kind of still recently new, I mean probably the last two or three years, because I grew up being a big star trek fan, like I love star trek, star wars, all that sci-fi, space stuff and so, um, you know, when I grew up yeah, when I grew up, I wanted to be the guy who went from planet to planet, made friends with aliens, like that was so cool.
Speaker 2:that was my dream job, so being afraid of planes is new for me, but um but's. A lot of planes, a lot of flying there is, and then a lot of waking up early, like this morning. I think I woke up at 5.30.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this Can you name the last three cities you were in?
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:Maybe Actually we're in Syracuse now. You're in Syracuse, we were in Rochester.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then we were I've lost Buffalo.
Speaker 3:Buffalo and Pittsburgh this morning.
Speaker 1:Pittsburgh this morning you drove up from Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because there's a one-way flight from Nashville to Pittsburgh, so we drove from Pittsburgh to Buffalo, okay.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm trying to think yeah, usually I don't.
Speaker 1:You will never forget this place. I'm just telling you, you're always going to remember the pod soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, absolutely. Well, this is the most unique and cool setup we've had. This is awesome, like really cool setup man yeah. But, like I will say, for the first time in my life, I don't know where I am most days, like and and and cause when we're on tour. Tour like when I, like you, wake up it's 2 pm and like you, go get chipotle or whatever here.
Speaker 1:I truly don't know where I am and it's it is kind of weird. Yeah, oh my god, I love that. Yeah, that's like where are we? You have no idea. Yeah, I've talked to many other artists and also my reps from the labels and it's like they're on the bus and they have no idea. It's just they wake up, they're in another city and it's like, okay, where are? We, we're in cle, you'd believe them, even though it wasn't Cleveland.
Speaker 2:I will say that If somebody told me something different, I would 100% believe them Exactly. How would you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, how would you know Exactly so? Collaborations, any opportunities with any of that?
Speaker 2:yet I know you probably get asked that.
Speaker 2:So much but your talent with somebody else, we chose Nazi on the first album. Lost Woods is kind of my personal project and it's something that I felt like I needed to say as an artist. So for this first project, we don't. However, I do have a song that is begging for a female collaboration, and we've not recorded it yet, but we're working on finding the right partner. You're not going to say who you're thinking about. Well, there's a few, there's a few we're thinking of. So I don't know who it is yet. It's got to be the right one.
Speaker 1:How do you think of all these different artists you want a female to collaborate with? I get that, but how do you really know it's the right one? Yeah, I don't know the right one yeah, I don't know, like, uh, because you don't want to like really audition it. You know what I mean. Because, like that would be no, we don't like eagerly, no, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do a song like, okay, you know not cut that one, but no, I think just you know out of uh, you know talking about it and you know, you kind of know what people's voices sound like and um, you know and also you.
Speaker 2:You look at what they sing these lyrics, what they sing these words, you know, because it's a song that I wrote, you know, with a couple of my friends and, uh, it's a deep song, story song, and you want to know, like who'd be willing to do something like that. And so you just kind of have these conversations. You're like, okay, maybe this person, maybe this person, and you also got a shelf who's?
Speaker 1:I don't know about that, I think it's just the opposite. But how you know, you got to find somebody and you also have to have that connection, correct?
Speaker 2:me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just, you know I listen. You know playing the songs we play on the Wolf All Day. You know you hear Cody and Carrie and it's just like you can feel a connection there. It's like and I realized it wasn't, you know they were, he was over here and she was over here, but they brought it together and I don't know if there was others before carrie, I have no idea, but it's. I can hear that connection in the song. Yeah, I think it worked. You know, obviously it works.
Speaker 2:look what they did right, still, yeah, yeah, I agree with you, you know, I I think that the best, uh, you know, you have people who can sing anything, you have people who can sing the phone book, and then there's sometimes when the artist just connects differently to the lyric, whether it be they wrote the song or whether it be they have an experience with the song, and so, yeah, I think you can feel that as a listener, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what's the name of your German shepherd, letto?
Speaker 2:Letto.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:How we were eating at an Italian restaurant in East Nashville called Nicoletto's.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:And we're driving back to our place and we saw this poor dog on the side of the road. You know, a little puppy and he was. We didn't know he was a puppy at the time, as a matter of fact, you know he's a German Shepherd. He was already a decent size and so. But you know, he was malnourished, he was dirty, he was eating out of trash, and so we were just like, oh, we gotta check this guy out.
Speaker 2:so we lured him into the car with nick leto's mac and cheese uh-huh, so it's the man leto, and so the first, the first several months, you know, as you can imagine having a rescue dog like was just getting healthy you know, it was. He was super sick, he was skinny, he was. He had so many things wrong with him and uh, but it has been the most incredible journey ever. Like it's the first responsibility I've had as an adult.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, but you know they're part of the fam yeah you'll be bringing them out on tour, you're gonna be doing all these different things I mean yeah we've had dogs forever, yeah, and normally we have to. Um, we just lost one, not too long ago.
Speaker 3:it's a cancer, though, and that was a rescue, and that was we.
Speaker 1:Never thought we would lose Nike before we you know another dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1:No it's just they become attached and they become part of your life, and when you're just sitting there alone and just having your dog sit next to you and love you and just it's the best.
Speaker 1:It is next to you and love you and just it's the best. It is man. Yeah, and that makes you think, because we saw them at crs that brought the puppies in. Yeah, and my wife does conferences and she makes sure that there are these I don't know what they call them, but they bring the puppies in and in between sessions they want you to go and hold the puppies and pet the puppies and I think it just takes all that stress and all that just out of you by doing that.
Speaker 2:So yeah they. They have a their man's best friend for a reason. I don't know what it is, but when I wish I had gotten him sooner like I know that he wasn't born yet. But looking back at my life, I'm like dang I think I would have been a lot happier if I had found him and he had found me sooner, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah so you, I mean, do you realize where you are in your career? Do you know how close you are? Like? I was looking over things today and I saw when the the single's going to drop and I'm like, man, leave me here and just kind of do something with that. A little bit earlier I've had it so well, I'm getting the eye, yeah, yeah, I know that it it's like we like how you think, yeah, until we're down two spins. Then it's like, yeah, no, it's all good, all good love you guys really I do.
Speaker 1:I respect, I respect the artists immensely uh, the labor reps just the same, because without them you wouldn't be able to do what you're doing. For example, you're here tonight and it's because of you, know, you're right for big machines.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, I signed a record deal because I want.
Speaker 1:I had a dream of being on the radio, so how was it with, like what, scott burchetta, yeah, and that whole gang? You had a meeting with him. How would you know how? How did all that go? That's cool.
Speaker 2:So I was. I was bartending in nashville um another. You know I had I'd always had multiple jobs um, you know coming I didn't come if you weren't in radio.
Speaker 1:You had several. I'm just saying yeah, oh yeah. Well, you got to be anywhere, and everywhere at all no, no, I'm just saying we have several jobs for, uh, the pay-to-bills. Oh yeah, never mind, go ahead. Yeah, well, well, that was.
Speaker 2:That was me as well, you know, I mean, I didn't come from a family who allowed, you know, like you move to Nashville and you realize, well, there's a lot of money here. You know what I mean. And, uh, I ran into that, you know, quite often, where, you know, maybe somebody was taking somebody's family was taking care of this, but they didn't have to work or whatever you know, and and then also try to go to the studio, write and record songs. You know, the pandemic happened. I lost all those jobs and uh, you know, uh, eventually, you know, led to a moment where, having a party at my house and uh, find myself, you know, crying in my GMC with the check engine light on, because I'm realizing I can't pay my rent, I can, you know? So I called my mom all saying, you know, asking her do you have a bed for me to come back home?
Speaker 2:to you know she said come on back. Well, a buddy of mine found me half lit in the car. Uh and you know uh saw what was going on offered to help me pay my rent. I fought him on.
Speaker 2:I didn't want to take him up on it, but you know, eventually he persuaded me um, and that next week I found a job bussing tables and, uh, they asked me how many shifts I wanted. I said every single one of them. So I was working double shifts, 17 hour shifts, work my way up the server. And then, uh, I got a job bartending, and so bartending was where in nashville, the money was at, and so I eventually got to record a couple songs. And then I became good friends with my bar manager, uh, and he would sometimes make fun of me or tease me and and then play my songs over the speakers during the during my shift. How cool. And I had been serving a couple of these guys stella miller light for a couple years and, uh, they heard the song they're like is this you?
Speaker 2:and I was like yeah that's me, he's just, you know, they just make it fun and they're like, we actually really like the song. Would you mind if we sent it to a friend of ours? I said, yeah, sure, you know, not thinking'd love to take you out to dinner. And, um, you know, six months later I'm meeting Scott Morishetta and Scott Morishetta said I'd love to make some records with you. So, um, it's, uh, it's a great family, it's a great team and uh, you know, and trying to grow this fan base organically, because it was a free way to promote music, I didn't have marketing money.
Speaker 3:I didn't have a team. I didn't have anybody helping me.
Speaker 2:But I wanted to sign a record deal because I had a dream of my songs being on the radio. When I was a kid, I rode the public school bus. I have a funny story about the school bus because if you ride the public school bus, all the cool kids sit in the back of the bus. You know, uh, I have a funny story about the school bus because you know, if you ride the public school bus, everybody, all the cool kids sit in the back of the bus.
Speaker 1:They do and.
Speaker 2:I was probably five or six years old and a couple older cousins sitting back there and, um, they were like hey, we want to teach you some sign language.
Speaker 3:And I was like all right, what do you?
Speaker 2:got and they started putting one finger down after the other one. One finger stood up.
Speaker 1:That's old. That's old school. Yeah, look at my age. We did that when I was on a school bus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nothing changes but the faces, they say.
Speaker 1:Exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:And they told me that the middle finger meant great job and that I should go up and tell the school bus driver that he was doing a great job driving the bus. And I did. Does anybody know this school bus driver that he was doing a great?
Speaker 1:job driving the bus, and I did, and so, uh, does anybody know this story? Oh yeah, okay, I'm going.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I've told her at a couple of my shows. And danny wright was my school bus driver, he knows he's like oh yeah, I remember that. And so we, we pulled over when it was time to my stop. He goes up, tells my mom what I did and things like look, I know it was these older kids, but I have to punish him. I can. I can't let the other kids see that he did that and not get any punishment. So I never got to sit in the back of the bus again. I had to sit beside him the whole rest of the school year. But he loved country music. He loved classic country music.
Speaker 2:He had a little radio sitting up top and so that's where I first heard Don't Take the Girl. That's where I first heard Don't Close your Eyes by Keith Wheatley. You know it's where I first heard. You know I remember crying to there Goes my Life by Kenny Chesney, because my parents had me young, you know at 18 years old, and you know so I was.
Speaker 2:I remember being stopped in my tracks by songs that I heard on the radio, and something I think that is so unique and so personal about the radio is that when a song hits you at the right moment at the right time. It feels divine because it can make you pull over to the side of the road and wonder what you're doing with your life. Because it wasn't AI, it wasn't a made-up playlist. You didn't go select the song. Somebody chose that song at the right time you don't know who did it and it came on at the right time for you, and that is something that is just unique to the radio and changed my life a couple of times. You know if I'm being honest. And so my dream was to sing country music and to be on the radio. And so when Scott Borch said, I said I want to make records with you. I said let's go.
Speaker 1:Gosh, you just Look at Jane over there. But no, you just said so much of what I love to hear about radio.
Speaker 1:You know, and we have a connection. Now it's hometown, it's radio. Yeah, it's so important to be on the radio, yeah, and nowadays, you know, everybody's got a different avenue to get their music. Yeah, but radio will never go away. Radio will be there. Radio we listen to, you get in your car, you get in your truck, it's the radio.
Speaker 1:I know we have other opportunities and I'm I may be as guilty as others listening to various things, but when I know I can go to my local radio station, doesn't anybody in this market that locally programmed? Yeah, there's only a couple left, um, but um, that just it's like, yes, this is real, I'm getting my forecast, I'm getting my traffic. I'm hearing about artists that are coming to town, maybe a chase McDaniels coming to town, you know, headlining a show, it's. It's like I'm hearing that locally, it's about, it's about us, it's about you know, and it's about artists like you. Yeah, and there's a community involved in that too. Like you know, I heard him sniff. I heard her sniffle. Is she crying because we're talking about radio? Oh, yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, okay, okay, okay, might be something in the pod zone. I didn't tell you about it anyways, uh, but this has been a great conversation and finding out a lot about you, but you also have a gentleman here that travels with you, john, over there. Yeah uh, the john wayne cattle company I, I I asked.
Speaker 1:I said what's your name? Again he goes john. I guess I'm looking at the hat is that john wayne cattle company, he goes no, I just found this somewhere he's got some john wayne vibes too, so has he been with you. Does he play with you on a?
Speaker 2:yeah, man, he's uh, he's been well, we well, we met a few weeks ago and he, uh, he's been on radio tour with me and, uh, you know, what's awesome about john is is that we never rehearsed. He showed up and was a rock star the first time.
Speaker 1:Isn't that the best, though it's crazy, because you know you don't have to worry about you, only say that a couple times.
Speaker 2:I mean like in nashville's, full of great guitar players. But to have somebody show up and know the songs so well that you're just like, hey, we don't have time, we just got to go into this and he nailed it.
Speaker 1:I have to ask you have your songs. You met him just a few weeks ago and he's playing your songs. Yeah, does, is it, john? Is because you knew who chase was? You need to listen to his music, or did you have a little advance notice that you were going to go on the road with him so you learned it, or this?
Speaker 2:is an interesting story.
Speaker 3:I can't wait I had about two day, two or three days notice, something like that, but fortunately I had videos of some radio shows, you know, so I I could see how he did it right right but then I mean, we met. How long before that first, oh, we met 30 minutes before the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 30 minutes before the show you guys met. I was from Nashville, I think you were coming from. La.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:We met in Phoenix and 30 minutes later we were at an Air Force base in Phoenix playing a show For the troops.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was like a room of like 250 troops and we were like, oh man, we can't mess it up.
Speaker 3:Right and he nailed it. I had been nervous at a show in a while, but that kind of that one kind of was like oh, my God.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of like freaking out a little bit. What's it take to be somebody like you, who you know you traveling now with an artist that, uh, you know he's right on the edge of doing something really, really good. What's it, what's it take to do that? And you know, you obviously got your guitar and everything. But talk to me about who you are and why you do it and what does it take. I mean really, this is a podcast, by the way so we kind of drifted from chase. We're over to John now.
Speaker 3:Well, it takes being in Nashville meeting some of the best musicians I've ever met in my life, where it made me kick everything up and I'm like these guys are so good and they do their homework, and the guys that I look up to I'm like, ok, I've got to do my homework and stay on top of it to keep doing this.
Speaker 1:Did you get a chance? Did you record with anybody? Have you done anything in the past where you've been in the studio? Maybe somebody needed a guitar player?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do some guitar tracking, do some producing and I've toured with some different artists and stuff. I've been doing kind of the Nashville thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I've been in town five years was in Texas before that. So I've been on the road about 14, you like the texas country, do you? I was. I was in the texas scene about seven years, a little bit of pat green a little bit.
Speaker 1:Uh, randy rogers, I mean, yeah, you know, that's cool, that's cool. I always wondered how you know that whole relationship. Artist, guitar player. Uh, do you really know each other? Well, you didn't until like 30 minutes ago. You know what I mean sometimes. That's how it works. You know um each other. Well, you didn't until, like, 30 minutes ago.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Sometimes that's how it works. You know Um, you know and, and, and then you get a feel for, like you know who won. Like you know, because there's different playing styles too. You know there's more of a rock vibe, there's more of a traditional country vibe, there's more of um. You know there's so many different styles of of picking.
Speaker 3:And then you know there's so many different styles of of picking.
Speaker 2:And then you know, sometimes it works, sometimes it's. You know something. You got to work on this guy. We didn't have to work on it at all.
Speaker 3:So you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And then and then also, you know, it's gotta be somebody that you can be on the road with for weeks at a time too, and John's a pretty awesome dude so.
Speaker 3:That's another thing. There are a lot of great players Sometimes are not the best you know.
Speaker 2:yeah so you have to if you're gonna spend they might, they might sleep with mayonnaise in their socks or something. I mean you, just you know, you never know with some of these guys yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah and uh, you don't sing, john I'm trying to get into.
Speaker 3:I know he's got. He's got that, don't he? I know everything I've tried lessons?
Speaker 1:I just no, but obviously you're very talented at what you do, so you never know, it may work out someday. And uh, you know um alissa. Alissa is saying uh, I think a duet with avrianna would be perfect oh, I've heard of her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's. Uh, she's blowing up on the streaming right now. Yeah, they got an awesome song out. Yeah, she's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she says hi too by the way okay well, hey there there you go, um, so, uh, it's been a great conversation, uh, finding out about you. I mean, we went from you know who you are, we got really deep and, uh, you know your history and your past, which how you overcame so much in your life. Now look at you when you've made it to sit in the pod zone. You have made it, but no seriously yeah uh, I know the song is dropping real soon. Yeah, um, you know, I it's gonna, it's gonna be huge for you I appreciate it huge and uh, I just want to say thanks for coming are you kidding me?
Speaker 2:oh, my man, thanks for having us. Man, this place is awesome, dude. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:This you know I told you a little history about this and that when other artists used to come by years ago before COVID, we would get pizza, wings and beer. We didn't do that tonight.
Speaker 2:I apologize. I'm looking at all your pictures up here. Some of my favorite artists are in this room signing notes to you.
Speaker 1:I got everything from rock to the oldies to some other Crazy, pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 1:Thanks for helping me lose my track. I was thinking, but you know, we talked everything about you and all that and, like I said when you, you, you're there, you're there, dude, you're there. It's going to be fun to to watch you grow and to get out and see you and I have the feeling you're going to be on some of these big shows Maybe I don't know when, I don't know how all that works, but once others catch on with your music, it's going to be. You know we need to, we need to do whatever we need to do to get them on whatever tour which is going to be cool.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you, man. It's so nice to have people who believe in in new artists. Thank you for that. Thank you for being a champion for somebody who's just trying his best to make my mom and dad all proud.
Speaker 1:I feel like I've known you forever.
Speaker 2:That's what the PodZone does. I think it does. This is my world.
Speaker 1:Just don't look at me on a Sunday morning when I'm sitting down here in my boxers just playing music, because that's what I do, I love that. I'll just sitting down here in my boxers, just playing music, because that's what I do.
Speaker 2:I love that, that's what I do. I'll just come down here, close the door. Everybody else is sleeping. I'm good to get my coffee. You gotta have a. You gotta have a peaceful place. What do you, what do you call, like, the place that you go to? In your mind you're, um, you're, you're, you're, you're. What's your go-to place? You know, I'm sitting here thinking of a Gatlinburg mountain river. I don't know what do they call that. Your, your happy place, your happy place.
Speaker 1:You're right, like you know some place in the mountains where there's nobody around you know, it's just here's the issue that I run into. When I started thinking about that, my wife and I would be driving and let's say, we're taking a trip and it's like. There's nothing around. This is so nice. Well, what am I going to do for groceries? Where am I going to go to the mall? Where am I going to? I said, well, honey, so it's a little bit of a drive, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But no, it's just to be in that. You know that frame of mind is just so awesome. But thank you for coming by. Somebody wants to get a hold of your music.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Chase music.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh, chase me, daniel music everywhere everywhere, just and just yeah, and you do all these socials.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, yeah, all that, and I didn't ask you about that, but you were doing a lot of that yourself, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah. So, uh, you know, I I'm I'm getting, I'm allowing more and more help to to help me, uh, but it's been hard. You know, like I, I that's something that's my baby, you know, I started, uh, posting those videos but, like I said, because it was just a free way to help people find my music. And so, uh, you know, luckily I do have an amazing team now, but it's I'm always going to be the one uh on socials there. So, yeah, chase me down. Music anywhere, yeah, anywhere.
Speaker 1:You All right, but thank you for coming by. We're going to, we're going to sign off now, but we're going to come back and we're going to play you a couple of songs. So I just need to do what I need to do on my end and Chase will get his guitar out and we'll play a couple of tunes and we'll call it a night. Let's go Love it. Chase McDaniel, everybody, thanks for coming by and hang on, because you're
