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SkiP HappEns Podcast
From White House Intern to Music Industry Maven: Jeff Gulko's Extraordinary Journey
We're live. Yeah, hello everybody. Welcome back to Skip Happens, the show where we talk to the movers, the shakers and the storytellers who are making things happen. I'm your host, skip Clark, and tonight's guest is someone who truly knows how to make noise behind the scenes, believe me, and in all the right ways too. He's a powerhouse in public relations, a connector of people, a guy who's worked with some of the biggest names in media, business and entertainment and, I might add, the government. I'm talking about the one and only. He's a good friend of mine, actually, and it's the first time we've had him on and I can't believe it's been this long. But Jeff Galko and we're diving into his journey, the art of building real relationships and what it takes to thrive in today's ever-changing media landscape. And there he is, jeff. Are you nervous, jeff?
Speaker 2:No, you know, I've got to be honest with you, maybe a little, I think it's because I've set up in the last 20-whatever years I've probably set up thousands of these interviews and I've been only on the camera side maybe four or five times and, as I was telling you before we started, the last time was like 13, 14 years ago, which is weird because it's never like that. I've done like phone interviews. You know, when your college wants to do like a article on you or you know they come right, they want to see like doing something nice because they want a donation or something, but this in the camera right now yeah I'm actually I'm like oh crap and I'm laughing at you.
Speaker 2:I want you to know that I'm laughing at you and it's interesting because I've always I'm always like watching my clients, like I've had so many people on with you over the years. I was thinking back like we've actually known each other 10 years, which is crazy, which means this is completely long overdue, completely. I've sat and watched these live and critiqued and judged the people that you know clients and I'm honest, like I didn't share this link, like I was on the phone with my mom right before and she's like what's the link? And I said, to be honest, I'm going to give you the link after and she said why? I said one because I'm probably going to be nervous. I know my mom's watching, which is weird at my age, but but also if it, if it turns out, if it goes crappy, it goes sideways.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to tell you right, it just might.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm just saying yeah, this is really no idea what's going to happen here, but, no, uh, a little, a little nervous, but more excited because, again, this is a.
Speaker 1:This is long I know it's, it is long overdue and it's so good to see you and officially, I'd like to welcome you to my pod soon. Uh, this is a. This is long, I know it's, it is long overdue and it's so good to see you and officially, like to welcome you to my pod zoom. Uh, this is where I do them all and uh, it's just so good to talk to you. But, uh, when it comes to your mom, uh, just to remember, uh, remember, this is live on my facebook, it's live on youtube, it's live on linkedin, it's uh live on my instagram. So all she's got to do is she will probably find it.
Speaker 2:I actually, I, I last week, I actually, you know I haven't told you who, but I can't say but I started working with a really, really big artist last week, um TV person, and my mom asked who it was. My mom went on Instagram and my mom doesn't go on Instagram often because she's a little older. Oh, I shouldn't have said it.
Speaker 2:See now Mark's ignoring your phone's going gonna ring in a minute, you know, but my mom didn't send me a text. It was like, oh my god, he's so handsome like I'm following him and all. So she might find this. She. She's more in tune with the technology than I ever thought, which is a little scary, because she monitors everything I post and at least once a day sends me a text or calls me and says do you really want to have that posted? Could that affect your work? So yeah, she probably follows.
Speaker 1:I see your post and I get it and I get where you're coming from. What are you looking at? I see you looking at something.
Speaker 2:No, the stupid camera's over here and you're over here. And this is you. So I'm trying to be polite, you looking at something. No, the stupid camera's over here and you're over here. I'm trying to be polite and look at the person I'm talking to, but the camera's right here.
Speaker 1:Don't look at me look at the camera. I mean you need to look at me, but look at the camera and that's how you look at me All right, here we go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, there's nothing to look at. Behind here is all of Nashville. So I mean, it is an amazing view, but I'm watching. I was trying to look at you and the camera at the same time.
Speaker 1:That's right, I was going to ask. So you are in Nashville.
Speaker 2:I am in.
Speaker 1:Nashville. You are where all the action is, but where did you grow up and how did that shape who you are today? Where'd you grow up?
Speaker 2:So I grew up just outside of Boston. I know Zach is probably watching this Lifelong Red Sox fan. Sorry, Zach.
Speaker 1:Shut it off.
Speaker 2:Exactly. We lost our view. Now, I was born in Boston and grew up about 20 minutes or what was 20 minutes before all the traffic, but 30 minutes south of Boston, a town called Stoughton, Sharon area. If you're not familiar, Fort is Foxborough. Foxborough is where the Patriots play, but the South Shore that's a small town, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you're talking. Do you go back To my actual town where I'm from? Yeah, yeah, I go back to the town where I was born only because my favorite pizza place in the world is there Pizza. If you think about it, it's bar pies. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. It's a whole kind of pizza that they don't serve outside of New England or Massachusetts.
Speaker 1:It's called bar pies.
Speaker 2:The kind of pizza it's called a bar pie. Yeah, bar pie, bar pizza. There's an actual Facebook group that's called New England Bar Pizza Association. There's something like 300,000 people and people argue about you know which place. They have the same argument for years which place is the best? But no, I go back. I mean my mom now lives in Lexington, which you know was Lexington, the Battle of Lexington and all that stuff. And then my dad, you know is you know still down that area and on the Cape and whatnot. But you know is you know still down that area and on the Cape and whatnot. But you know you go back. None of my friends are still there. It's sort of one of those like towns. Like you, you grow up there and you know you leave. Yeah, I don't think I know a single person that still lives there except, in all honesty, I think two girls I went to school with might dance it.
Speaker 1:There is a gentleman's club there and I've been heard that they're still dancing and they're twins, but I don't know how does that memory stick like? Of all things to talk about, I'm talking about the twins that are dancing in a strip club it's very weird because this is how my mind goes.
Speaker 2:this is why I have no idea how this is going to go. It's good, but when you just said you go back, I'm like you start to. I'm visualizing the main street right and I want you to street and I and I'm like, okay, blockbuster was right across the street from Alex's, which I never went to as a patron, but I did an internship with the police department in college and we went and did a call there and I walked in and in their dancing were these two girls the twins. So now like, yeah, it's how I don't know my mind, just it's a twin. So now like, yeah, it's how I don't know my mind, just all right, jeff.
Speaker 1:Jeff, you're going to get yourself in trouble. Wait a minute. But do you have a memory from your childhood that still sticks with you today, besides the gentlemen's club? Do you have a memory from being back at you know, your hometown, something along?
Speaker 2:those lines. Yeah, something along those lines. Yeah, I'll be honest with you, I'm gonna little show and tell here this is why I love jeff. This is why I love jeff here we go, the street that I grew up on you know your camera's backwards, but that's okay, don't mess with it.
Speaker 2:So listen, that's the street I grew up on, in stowed in mass, and it's here. It's here on my bookshelf, and it's been in every office that I've ever had my entire career, because I've always felt like you know, no matter how successful you are or where you've been or where you've traveled, you come from somewhere and you know I wouldn't be the person if I wasn't today. I am today. You'll be on that street. Did you steal it? I didn't steal it. A friend of mine stole it, who has one of the biggest jobs on Wall Street right now, which is even funnier.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying his name. There are about six of us that lived on the street Cool and when we went off to college we made sure that during that year, you know, the town report went up, you bang it off and we all went off to college with the same, but we all off to college with the same, but we all, to this day, we all have it in our offices as that thing of like.
Speaker 1:You don't forget where you come from and to this day, the uh, the town is still looking for it, or the village of the city or whatever.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I might. I, for there could be a warrant out for my arrest after after this. You know, if someone from my hometown is watching, they're like, oh, that's what the sign is so what did you first?
Speaker 1:do I mean you because you're doing, uh, you're a publicist now. You you're into media side of things, but you also earned her interned at the police department. I know you worked at the white house for a little bit. I mean, all right, let's just go back. What was your first job?
Speaker 2:ever. My first job ever was uh, I worked as a waiter gentleman's club no.
Speaker 1:no, I worked as a waiter. Gentleman's club no.
Speaker 2:I worked as a waiter, at like 15 years old, for a caterer.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Doing like bar mitzvahs and weddings. Yeah, all right, it was horrible. It lasted very short because I think it was like the third time. I remember I was walking out of the kitchen I mean, I might have been 100 pounds soaking wet and I had a full tray of wine glasses and it was one of those doors that, oh yeah, went everywhere. The problem is I was like 15.
Speaker 2:I remember it was a bar mitzvah, so it was like kids just like a year younger than me were making fun. I mean I went home and told my parents like yeah, this, this just isn't yeah, but you had a job. They did not. I did have a job, but yeah, no, that was the first. I mean even like the days of like your first job, like I had some really weird jobs, like I mean I worked at a gas station, like in the little bubble, like I don't know why my parents felt this, my overprotective parents felt this was safe. In high school you know that the kid was in one of those little glass things.
Speaker 2:Right, you have the cigarette, you have the gum, yeah, and if I walked into the bathroom it was just like a little toilet behind the cigarette wall. The door opened up.
Speaker 1:And you hope nobody comes to the window while you're sitting on the pot.
Speaker 2:Or you just hope that no one's going to come and rob the place. Yeah, it's one of those things where once in a while I say my parents were very overprotective, like how did that fly? But yeah, I was there. And then the Reebok world headquarters were my town.
Speaker 1:So then the upgrade was go work at Reebok because they gave you a discount on shoes. But, um, no, my career has been like um, there's no logic. There's no logic and no path. Um, figured that out. Yeah, knowing you over the last 10 years, and you and I have chatted a lot about life and things going on in our lives. But you, you know, being at the white house and doing media and it just, and it just it's like how, why, how did they don't even go together?
Speaker 2:no, nothing, no, nothing does it's. I mean, I guess I might as well bring two references. You know, since you know you do country music, you know either uh, dairy song, this, or uh, the broken road. Um, you know it's uh's. My plan always was I thought I was going to be a lawyer. I always wanted to go to law school.
Speaker 1:I could go ahead.
Speaker 2:And. But then there was this thing called the SATs. You know, I went to a private prep school and my grades were good there. Something about the SATs just kicked my ass and kicked my ass. I took it a ton of times and no one could figure out what the problem was. And, you know, I ended up going to college.
Speaker 2:But once I was there, I thought to myself wait a minute, what if I do all this and I go to law school and then I can't pass the bar, like what happens if I have the same issue with like the bar as I did with SATs? And so I pivoted. You know, again, when I went to GW and DC, they didn't have pre-law. So what they told you to do is oh, do criminal justice, slash sociology, because it's the same classes that would prepare you for pre-law. I got excited as, like a freshman and I took way too many courses in that, like my freshman and sophomore year before when I realized, like I'm not going to be a lawyer, it was too late to change. Like I was fortunate my dad paid for college, but he wasn't gonna pay for more than four years because I had a younger sister that was coming in right behind me yeah, I gotta keep it going, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I I was like, oh great, now, um, because that's what my degree. People don't realize that my actual degree in college is in criminal justice, like it just shows you.
Speaker 1:Yeah there's no rhyme or reason to it.
Speaker 2:There's no rhyme or reason, but the criminal justice part actually did fall into how my career then went, because I had to do my senior year. But I did it my junior year. Well, I interned for my freshman year Senator Kerry of Massachusetts. He was the commencement speaker at my high school graduation. Very cool, and my dad must have had this conversation with himself and not me or my mom. But once kerry was done with his speech, I remember my dad. Like you know, my dad's gonna be pissed for me telling the story this way, but hey, he's not watching.
Speaker 2:Remember, they don't have the link half my family doesn't want to talk to me anyway, so now the other half won't either. But um, they, um, I'd like drag me by my wrist up to like. John kerry was like, oh, this is my son, jeff. He's gonna be a freshman at gw, he'd love to intern for you. I remember I looked at my mom and I'm like, why is he signing me up for stuff before I even get to school? And so before I even like set foot at gw campus, I was already signed up to like intern and had like a commitment like outside of class.
Speaker 2:And so my freshman year I interned for Kerry, which was a weird experience because I interned for him for the whole year and he had this, he had this handbook, and I guess I'm going to tell people's dirt and secrets on this, but whatever, it's a podcast. But it said do not, do not speak to the senator unless he speaks to you. And I actually interned for this guy for a full year and I never met him Right, and I'll get to later in the story, I'll get to when I met him and what I said to him. But so I interned for my first year and then I got this idea of well, you know what would be cool in this? I said you know, I want to intern at the White House. This was a very interesting time for the White House intern program because there was a famous intern there at the same time, her you know, monica. It was called Monica.
Speaker 1:I wasn't even going to go there. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2:So she was an intern. At the same time. No people like to ask if I ever wore a blue dress. I never wore a blue dress. I never wore a blue dress. But I applied and you know, I remember my parents are just like this is really hard to get.
Speaker 2:Um, I think what helped me is that year the scandal started to break. So a lot of like female I mean this is a dead true thing I heard there's like a lot of female parents weren't like rushing to let their daughters go apply for like a White House internship. So I got it. I got I got accepted to intern at the White House. Yeah and yeah. But the thing, that thing was because I was at GW, a lot of people come to DC for a semester and leave. Because I was there and I was living three blocks from the White House, I stayed for three semesters so I started putting in roots and so I was in the public liaison's office, but then I was actually in the press office during the whole scandal, which was when I first cut my teeth. That made me nuts dude.
Speaker 1:You know, with everything that was going on with that scandal, we all know the story. We don't have to go and bring it up again, but to be able, I have a lot of friends that were indirectly involved.
Speaker 2:Involved, yeah, I had nothing to do with it, but, um, yeah, it was a crazy time because I'll never forget the day the ken stars with the star report came out and like the building was quiet because everybody was at their desk like reading and then all of a sudden I remember like the guy in the office next to me be like turn the page like 115, because it was like suddenly a fallacious thing, you know about cigars or you know the stuff that was in that, and everyone was just like yeah, holy crap, like this is real. Um, but then what was interesting is because morale was really low, they were concerned about morale. The glintons actually brought a. They were calling it a family fair day. It was a saturday in the on the south lawn of the white house. It was for staff and like their immediate spouse or their kids to come and like the invitation showed like cornball and like games and I remember walking there with, uh, with my ex-wife, ex-wife number one.
Speaker 1:Um, actually another story, by the way. It'll be coming up in a little bit, but go ahead I remember walking there, I think who's going to this fear?
Speaker 2:and as we turn the corner, there was a full-blown carnival on the south lawn, like clinton went, like I don't know what. They went through no expense to try to make us all happy. I mean, there was ferris wheels. There was like every game you could imagine playing.
Speaker 1:And this is for the staff, this is for you.
Speaker 2:This is for the staff to try to like boost morale, because everyone that week was like feelings were down in the dumps because this report came out and it didn't look good for the president and this and that. But I always wondered to the tourists that were in DC that day. They had to be wondering like what the hell is going on? Why is there a Ferris wheel in the middle of the South Lawn and why is there, like you know, I'm telling you, like Tilt-A-Whirl, like all the cool carnival rides were there and, yeah, it was definitely an interesting time.
Speaker 2:It was actually a time. It actually was the most pivotal time because, indirectly, that was going on. It became the most pivotal moment in my career because I then had to go do this field work in criminal justice and so I didn't want to leave the White House. So I went over and worked in the White House Drug Policy Office, which at the time the drugs are this guy, barry McCaffrey, four-star general, who just led the first Iraq war, amazing guy, crazy guy, and he ran the office like he was still in the battlefields and for a civilian and a kid like me it was just like, if this is the real world, like I'm gonna be a career student. You know um, but where, jeff?
Speaker 1:where were those offices? They're not in the actual white house, are they no?
Speaker 2:so. So when I was in the press office, um, I had a coveted. It's probably changed. I was curious, but I had a coveted blue badge right. So you're, you were in what was called the OEOB old executive office building, which is the building just right adjacent to it.
Speaker 1:Now the.
Speaker 2:I mean I think it's now the Eisenhower Eisenhower office building. But so in the. So in the white house you've got like the, the Western and the East wing. The East wing people like the social coordinators and protocol and people are the people that plan the events and the parties and stuff. And in the West Wing, you know you have it's not as big as anyone would imagine. I mean you have, you know, the main floor. You walk in, you have the, you know the lobby, and then you have like cabinet room and then behind the cabinet room you have the president's staff press secretary, but the offices are small, like people would imagine. It's this grandiose thing and it really isn't. Oh, and you have the, you know the, the press briefing room, and then downstairs you'll have like the situation room and some other things.
Speaker 2:But when you're an intern, or even of the staff, only like not even 5% are given a blue badge and the blue badge gave you could go from like OEOB into the like. You could go from like oeob into the like. You could just go on the west wing and just walk around and you could go anywhere. I somehow, as an intern, got a blue badge and it was. I mean I pinched myself. Now I appreciated it then but like to have that now. You know just the thing. I mean the fact that, like you know, if I wanted to, as an intern, you always like sort of walk around to kill time so you don't have to work. So I literally would, I would walk from the OEOB, just you know, into the West Wing and I would just walk and like Clinton would be like sitting at his desk and like I'm 19 years old and like I go hey, Bill, how you doing today, Bill, what's going on?
Speaker 2:That was the difference between that and John Kerry, because you were allowed to say hi to the president and the president said hi to you. There wasn't this stuffiness Now. I mean, I didn't have, I didn't have. You know, people didn't have as warm and fuzzy as a relationship with Hillary at that time. It was, yeah, it was, it was amazing and because I had had a blue badge, it gave me the ability to give people uh, tours after hours on the weekends of the white house and of the west wing.
Speaker 2:So if you were a friend of mine, you came to town or you were a family member, like I could say, hey, meet me at 8 am and I would go in and show you. And you know, sometimes was cool times, I mean, president, could be coming and going on a helicopter and you have to have like family there. And next, you know, you know we're taking a picture and yeah, it was, um, it was, it was, it was interesting time, it it's. You know, again, it doesn't seem like any of it happened. None of it makes sense. You know, as we go through this journey, not the one thing that people are going to take away from this is nothing in my life makes sense, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, you're not alone. I think it's everybody now. But do you think it's all changed with what's going on today at the white house?
Speaker 2:I, um, so I actually went back and worked um, actually, not people notes but I actually spent just under a year traveling with obama and biden, uh, on their on their advanced teams. Uh, something I did during the final after I graduated college. Um, I, I spent a year on Clinton's advance team, traveling with him, coordinating motorcades and coordinating events and sites. So I'd done it, and I did that with Clinton for a year until, all of a sudden, one day, I got a phone call from presidential personnel saying that I was being nominated for a political appointment to go over to the Department of Energy and be in the past. Bill Richards.
Speaker 1:Were you able to fly on the same plane, and all that?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh, that's the thing that didn't make sense. It's like I was.
Speaker 1:I mean, what did Air Force One if the president was on board? It's called Air Force One.
Speaker 2:And I've been on it. And the craziest story I don't know how I'll tell the story, but it's it's I have a D. I have a D minus on my transcript in college and it ruined my GPA for the entire four years. And the D minus was in a class called the American Presidency, I kid you not. And I took this class while I was working full time at the White House.
Speaker 2:So my junior year of college I had an idea for something with pro sports and anti drugs and I, just as an intern, started working on something, didn't tell anybody. And then it grew to this thing where I had 28 major league baseball teams all agreeing to do all this stuff for the white house and you know, hand out materials and send players to school and all that stuff. And then I got a phone call one day saying the drugs are one to see me and verbatim, he's like the president loves what you're doing. You know the government's never used pro sports as a vehicle to educate kids about drugs. We want you to start working full time here today and we're naming you deputy manager of the new White House Athletic Initiative Against Drugs.
Speaker 2:And I'm like sir, yes, sir. And I remember the first question. My dad said because I'm a junior, I'm a junior in college, I'm not working at the White House full time, which again is like, opposite from like. And because of this, us news and world report wrote this article titled here's a white house intern that did good, and it was sort of this whole thing that picked pin, like monica and me and this one thing, um, but yeah, so it was wow, I know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I did, I think, especially in the town, I think in n Nashville people just know me as the guy that's like managed a few independent artists and like they don't. I don't know, I just maybe haven't spent enough time with them or whatnot. But yeah, I spent the next like my junior and senior year. I worked full time at the White House and I would put on a suit every day. I'd run to work. When it was time for class I would run down, be there for attendance, wait for attendance, run back to work.
Speaker 2:Um, and you know, I spent the summer before my senior year traveling to major league baseball stadiums presenting, from the pitcher's mound, plaques from the white house for doing the thing. They presented me back with a jersey, all the jerseys. I couldn't keep any of them, you know, because they're, you know, ethics laws, but they're in a. They're probably in a closet somewhere or the ethics guy probably has them hanging up in his house. Probably think about it back then. That was, that was the biggest concern ethically was will jeff take home the new york mets jersey? Mookie wilson gave him like it was craziness, but, um, yeah, it was a potential question, like yeah, I mean, I was on Air Force One and all these things.
Speaker 2:And so I had this one teacher that taught the American presidency. His name's Forrest Maltzman and I will not hold back that name. So if you're watching this, forrest, I'm still pissed off that I was missing class because I was with the president. I was traveling. That's the irony of ironies. I remember when he gave me the D-minus my dad was upset. My dad said well, call him, tell him, tell him. So I called him. I had a little bit of a. I will admit this. Dc Jeff, I don't know. A lot of people probably wouldn't like DC Jeff, because when you're in that environment and you're young and you have power because I ended up having a lot of power um, you know, you become sort of a, you know an x and um, I remember I said to the teacher because he's like I'm not changing a grade, and I said you know why don't you just give me an f then?
Speaker 2:because d myself and he said something, eric, you know, I remember, I remember the line I said to him.
Speaker 2:I said you know what, while you're, while you're teaching what you think is the American presidency, I've been living it and I just hung up the phone yeah, I mean you learn more from yeah it gave a joke on the on traveling because, like clinton, like everyone knew, like my average was going away every day, I had to try to go somewhere. And maybe a joke hey, jeff, what's your average at? I? Oh, I think I'm at like a 75,. You know, between now and the end of the semester I'm totally screwed.
Speaker 1:I mean that's amazing I hadn't. In the 10 years that I've known you, I've never heard all that. I knew some, but not everything. But can you? Are there any funny stories that you can tell us about being in the White House, maybe with the Clintintons or you know, or traveling with obama and biden? Anything crazy ever happened where you go?
Speaker 2:I can't believe it just happened well, you know, no, yeah, I mean I I think the craziest thing I did, well, one was the places I went to, um, and all this was before iphone. So, like there was no way, like it was scary, especially as a kid, because there was no way to communicate home. Like they gave me like a cell phone, but the cell phone didn't work outside of the usf because it was some giant qualcomm, you know, like satellite phones or something like that because I had three pagers okay you know, ondcp white house policy pager.
Speaker 2:I had a white house communications pager and then I had a department of energy pager. Like I had three of these stupid things that would go up with no way to call people back. It was the dumbest thing. And you know, I had an earpiece. So then I was on the road, I had an earpiece and, you know, on a radio, you know, listen to all the traffic.
Speaker 2:But a lot of times, like I had to lie to my parents about where I was going just because I knew they would be nervous, no-transcript. So we had a crazy bond in the beginning and but he was very inclusive to me, meaning if he went in to go meet with an oil minister to negotiate, or a hostage, I mean his bread and butter was releasing hostages. I mean I think every if he was alive right now, even the Israel situation would be totally different and I would assume I was going to sit out in the hall with secret service. He'd always be like Jeff, come, come, and all of a sudden I find myself with, like you know, the oil minister of Qatar or Saudi Bill Richardson and Jeff. And because he said he wanted me to learn, he wanted me to learn, or Saudi, bill, richardson and Jeff, because he said he wanted me to learn the art of negotiating and building relationships and building rapport.
Speaker 2:That one trip, like I told my mom, I went to Arizona and I wasn't in Arizona. I went to Nigeria, I went to Algeria, I went to Saudi, I went to Qatar. I remember we met with the Saudi Crown Prince in London. Then we went to Austria and my mom thought for the week I was in Arizona and then, as far as like the only thing, that just never made sense. I guess it's timely now. And so I went in 2000 to Moscow, the country I can't go back to now because of my career post that that's a true story. I can go in, but there's no country I can't go back to now because of my career post-that that's a true story. I can go in, but there's no way I will get out of Russia. I don't think you have a huge Russian population watching this, so I think I'm pretty safe.
Speaker 1:No, but Moscow would be one place I would love to visit. I would love to see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it was amazing because I got to, I had dinner in the Kremlin. It was. It was a historic event because it was Clinton was addressing the Dumont, which is their Congress, and it was the first time a U S president had addressed the Congress in 50 years probably. Um, that was awesome and cool. But what was amazing that night and again thank God, because Bill Richardson was so inclusive to me Richardson was going to have dinner with Clinton and it wasn't just Clinton, it was going to be Clinton, it was going to be Madeleine Albright, who's Secretary of State. It was Rubin, who was Secretary of Treasury. No, no, rubin left. It was Summers, who's Secretary of Treasury I think George Tenet might have been there who was the head of CIA in Richardson.
Speaker 2:And same thing I figured you know, motorcade, I'm going to spend the next three, four hours in the car sleeping. I figured, you know, motorcade, I'm gonna spend the next three, four hours in the car sleeping, like you know, like you do when you're doing those things. Um, and all of a sudden, like I didn't get out of the car, and then Richardson, like he always joked, he swore him on. He's like what the f? You doing? I'm like, I'm just saying he's like, come on, we're going to eat. And I'm like I can't, I can't go to this, like it's all printed out like who's at the table. And he goes no, no, you're fine, come with me. And he brought me. And the next thing, you know, I'm sitting around at this place and you remember weird things, because it's somewhere it was called the push pushkin cafe and I'm at a small round table with like six people and it's literally clint. It's those people in me and I'm just listening to the conversation. But I remember like, all of a sudden, madeline albright was like oh, so tell me about yourself. And I'm thinking, you know you talk about me being nervous on here at the beginning, like I probably pooped myself and sweat myself through my cheap wool suit. Like what could I be telling these people? Um, they, that was probably the most memorable as far as funny or weird.
Speaker 2:Um, the best picture I have of me and bill clinton, uh, was taken in atlanta and I was briefing him and the photographer, you know he thanked me. And Bill Clinton was taken in Atlanta and I was briefing him and the photographer, you know he thanked me and I did. The photographer got an amazing photo of like. You know it's just me and him. No one's around shaking hands. But what's interesting about that is he's wearing a yellow and blue tie and that tie became very famous because that was the day Monica was testifying for 10 star. And the story story goes it's a true story that clinton had said um to to monica I won't be with you that day, I won't be able to talk with you that day, but know that I'm with you because I'm going to wear the tie that you gave me. So the best picture I have with me and clinton, uh, was that day and he's he's wearing the tie. That's so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you think about it.
Speaker 2:I haven't told these stories. Like I'm just, this is amazing. I know I've been like incredibly blessed and like no, this is like I think this is bringing things around, because I do. I have plenty of days where I wake up here and I even say like what the hell am I doing in Nashville? You know, I hate working for myself, business or their or life in this. Like I'm telling these stories and I'm like shit, I have nothing to complain about right now. Like no, it's just yeah, I'm like reliving this going.
Speaker 2:God, I was really fortunate you've already done more in your life than most people do in a lifetime when I first left the white house, I remember I called my mom and I was because when, when gore lost, I was out of a job and like that was the only work I knew. And I remember I called my mom and I said like I peaked because in my mind, when you're that young, you're 23 years old, I was 23. I left and like you think like well, what is all what else is ever going to match up to this? Like what is going to bring the excitement? You know, what is what? Am I gonna be able to walk into a bar? Happy, I'm gonna be like, oh, I work in the white house, like even that stuff. Like I was like, oh, my god, I'm gonna in like a cubicle or like what am I going to do? And my mom's like no, no, no, there's this, you know, she's like brighter days ahead, you know, brighter. I'm like shut up.
Speaker 1:It's not like nothing's going to be more exciting, you know, but, um, but yeah, so it was uh, yeah, Let me ask because I don't want to get into a lot of politics, because you know how that goes, but I I understand what you did back in the day and all that and the press room and all that. How do you think people are feeling right now in the White House? Maybe somebody that's called to do your job? What?
Speaker 2:I. I tell people the difference I've won is I couldn't do it now One, it's a young man's game. I couldn't 24, 25 days a month. The way that schedule is because, again, even when I was with richardson people don't realize is like if his schedule started at seven, I was at department of energy by five to park my car, getting in the, getting in his car in the limo, in the motorcade going. I was waking him up. Full day of events. He had dinners at night, this and that I finally get home, bring him home at midnight. I'm getting home at one. Take a shower. It's 1 30 now I'm actually reading the briefing memos for the next day. I couldn't do it, it'd kill me.
Speaker 2:But I also just, you did as you were told. If a member of the cabinet did as you were told, and the problem now and we're seeing this as one is it's become way too political. It's extremely unfortunate because, listen, bill Clinton, republicans, republicans and Democrats didn't like each other when we were at the White House, but he and Gingrich like they, actually they work together Like that was the last time. It was a balanced budget if you think about it, and so you know some of my closest friends to this day. Actually, one of my closest friends is the Bush appointee that took my job and energy that I had to, like, work with during the transition. You wouldn't see that today there's so much like hatred and you know people are going to jail like I would never, because, again, there's probably things that I did that I was told to do. That. Right now, like you know, the other side might be like oh, investigate him or this or that, and like exactly, exactly in the process.
Speaker 2:You know, I think it's extremely sad that no matter what side, no matter what side, you fall on that you know we have 330 million people in this country and like that's what we had to choose from, and it's because the process is so nasty and the process is so divisive that there's plenty of good people, great people, experienced people that look and go. I don't want to bring my family through this, I don't want to do this to my family, and so the people that end up running it's, it's. It's like ego, it's ego driven, you know it's it's they, you know they, they, they want it, they need it and it's. You know again, it's. You know how you have to choose, what we have to choose.
Speaker 1:Would you go back and change anything that you've done? You don't regret any of that, or do you?
Speaker 2:no, no, no, no. I don't regret any of that. I mean, again, that was just like phase one. I mean you know we didn't even get into like cia, you know, I don't, I don't regret it at all because everything, everything has had this like weird place. You know with how I ended up.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, I just hit it on, I people always, at least like every few days, I will sit there and be like the White House. I understand, yeah, I work there, like I pictures to prove it. But, like you know, it was the 2002 to 2006 and a half that I do look and I go like was I really there? Like because that's the part that I think that's part of my career. That doesn't make sense, I wouldn't doing. I wouldn't do it differently, because I say all the time like that's the most important and rewarding work I'm going to do in my entire life. Nothing, nothing will top it. You know I can say that I was involved in, you know, stopping things from blowing up or saving people's lives, um, but you know, at the same time, you know I, I did my thing, but yeah, his didn't make sense that's a chapter in the book of Jeff Galko.
Speaker 1:right there there's a chapter. Let's move on to the next chapter. You mentioned CIA. You had a little bit to do with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no. So I um the way that happened because, again, if people that know me, I think it's because people know me and my and I don't want to keep calling them overprotective parents but I've got Jewish parents, you know, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know the family. They want to keep an eye on the kids, even at my age now.
Speaker 2:Little Jeff, are you safe? Which actually today. They're not happy with me today because I actually booked plane tickets. I told them I'm going to Israel in a few weeks and they're not happy with this. They're very scared. So I lost my job when Gore lost and then I went to go work at the biggest PR firm in the world it was called Hill Nolton Global global thing. I got a great job there and I was there like a month and a half and 9-11 happened and they laid off.
Speaker 2:I mean I got laid off and so I found myself unemployed for the second time in a year 2001. And I just you know it took me forever to find this job, because when there's a change of administration, you and like 2000 of your closest friends all have similar resumes. You're all trying to find jobs and you're of the party that, like doesn't have power, like you don't have access anymore, like that's why people now leave like halfway through a term, so they can go out and cash out, that's why people now leave like halfway through a term, so they can go out and cash out. Um, so I was out of a job for a second time and I was on unemployment and I was. I remember I'd go and with my friends to uh, it was called the mci center and we'd wait for like big tickets to like andrew bacelli or something, michael jordan, here at the time. We'd buy tickets and then, like we'd scalp them, basically, like you, make your money back, and then you pay your bills.
Speaker 2:And so I went and had breakfast with Bill Richardson one morning and I was at his house and I was like what do I do now? And he at this time he had just become governor of New Mexico and so, but he was back in DC and I was like, what do I do? Like I don't, like I'm scared. And he looked at me and he said you still have your security clearance from the White House. I'm like, yeah, it's still, like it hasn't expired, sure? And he looked at me and he said why don't you go work at this?
Speaker 2:It was right after 9-11. He's like, why don't you go work at cia? Like they need good people? And I looked at him and I said you've got over the last two years, like you know, so you got to know my parents very well, like you know they're. That's never going to fly. And he looked at me with a dead face, like staring at his face, and he said they won't know, you'll be undercover. And that's what it was. Then, for the first uh, year and a half of me being there, I was undercover. I had a different name, my, you know other than you know nobody knew.
Speaker 1:No, I get it, I get it. We don't need to go into detail because I do enjoy talking to you. You know what I mean and we're good friends, um, but it's just interesting the life that you know, even up to. But it's just interesting, the life that you know, even up to that point, it's pretty interesting. Then let me ask how did you get to Nashville? Or how did you get to? You know managing or representing artists and all that.
Speaker 2:So it was 2012, 13-ish, so I'd given up all things DC. I said I'm done with this. Never again will I let voters or polls control my ability to pay my bills. And so I went to a Hard Rock Cafe one night when my friend's sister was singing, to be supportive, and he introduced me to this guy who was managing a female teen pop group and said hey, we're looking for someone to do press. There were five girls between ages of 14 and 17 and I said I don't know anything about music, I can't sing, I can't dance. Like they put me in the last row of chorus because I sucked. Um, I always thought I was tall, no, it's because I sucked. And so I said and he's oh, why don't you just come down to rehearsal tomorrow night, meet the girls, maybe? And so I went down there and everyone was really nice and I was like okay. And then you know, we talked about, you know where they could pay me. And I was like but I had my regular like clients during the day, like corporate PR clients, and it just became like this fun, like nighttime project I was working on. And then I was like wow, this is really fun, paid to like do stuff in music, like is this? Like? Is this real? Like I can't get paid to go to concerts. Like set up press and I always loved country music and I worked with them for a couple years.
Speaker 2:The group fell apart just because you know you need five teenage girls, five moms personalities. You know I still I'm running small today, but it was. It was a hard thing. Um, and I one day was on facebook and some woman in Boston like posted about her daughter and I was just like wow, this is really weird, a country artist from Boston. And I just said you know, I'm trying to pay it forward. You know, maybe I can help her with some local press.
Speaker 2:You know I like country music and I reached out to her mom and met with them and first I was just going to do press and then know they were such you know they were good people um it, I ended up falling into managing her as well. Um, because I think what it was is, it was the closest thing for me. I think music, I think it is. I mean, it's the closest thing to politics and campaigns, which is all I knew, um, without having to be in politics and campaigns. There's no secret sauce to to any of this music stuff? There really isn't. You know, instead of having a candidate that you want to kiss babies and shake hands, it's your candidate, is the artist and it's you know it's almost the same.
Speaker 2:It's very similar um and so I just I fell, I fell in love with it and, you know, started to do more and more. And then I made my first trip to nashville and yeah, it's weird because I again, every once in a while, I wake up and I'm like, how did I end up? Like I'm looking outside right now in the entire city and so how did I end up here? Like it doesn't make sense. But you know, along the way I've met amazing people like yourself and you know it's been fun. I still have corporate clients and I try to do as much in the music.
Speaker 2:But I do say this, I used to say this jokingly and I say it seriously and hopefully it doesn't really offend anybody but I always said to people I always thought the most like political, sometimes backstabbing, environment one could work in was the West Wing of the White House, until I entered the music industry. And then I'm like, oh my God, this is even more not broke, this is even more like your best friend, completely like cut you off at the knees, um, and then I felt that dealing with al-qaeda during the war would be the only time I dealt with terrorists. And you know there's some people that I've met and dealt with, that should maybe be listed as a terrorist well, jeff, yeah, I get you, I guess.
Speaker 1:No, it is, and I and I hear it on my side of things as well, doing what I do on the radio side and talking to people like you, and you've got an artist that comes out. You want to talk to me about maybe getting around the radio or bringing her to town to meet, uh, you know, to meet new fans. But uh, yeah, I get that it's.
Speaker 2:It's got to be fun but it's got to be stressful it's stressful and what I had I learned I had to learn very fast. I did not come into this like I'm I'm not even saying this jokingly, I'm saying this like wholehearted, honest, like friend of mine. I'm lucky people like you even still talk to me. No, but true story. When I look at when I first came to do the country stuff 2015, the problem was I came from the political world, right when you would make a call and you expected things to get done and in your mind, if you had enough bullet points or ammunition, you're going to get what you want. And for me, I came in like guns blazing and I remember you know this artist. Like you know, I had her on the Today Show and to me, in my mind, it was like, well, if I had her on the Today Show and she's not even signed and this and that, like everybody should be playing her song. And when people say no, I was taking it way too personally and I get sometimes nasty. I'd be like, not nasty like, but be like. You know what, are you kidding me? Like she was just on the Today Show. So I had to learn.
Speaker 2:It was a huge learning experience and, believe me, I spent plenty of time apologizing to people, letting them know that, hey, when I first came into this life, I'm a different person. You know, I I had an ego. I came from DC, I came from CIA where I was getting paid to like, basically, you know, drill people in question. I'm not used to the answer no, um and so. But it was a definitely.
Speaker 2:It definitely was a learning lesson. It was very humbling too because, you know, my dad always told me you know there's a lot of my dad always told me growing up and I and I live by it now and unfortunately, you know, you realize that I realized that for a few years I strayed from it and he always says like don't, don't, ever treat people as a transaction and make a friend not a sale. And I came into this music thing just thinking like, okay, all right, we did today's show, we'll have tour buses within a month and this one's going to play this radio station we're going to, and it's not reality and it doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 1:No, you know that.
Speaker 2:No, now I know, and it wasn't until I started doing, when john lova hired me over at bmg to work with a couple of the artists a couple years ago. It wasn't until I like, experienced and saw from the art, from the label side, that you know it's just as hard, like I mean, you know, I always assume like, oh, you know, if you're signed artists, you know it's just basically it's like a menu Just tell the world, the public and radio what you want and order what you want. And no, I learned very quickly that you know you can be signed to a major label and you can be on a big tour and you are still scrapping and praying and fighting for every stream and every spin. And you know it's just. I look back at the early days and go like, oh, my God, I was living in like a weird vacuum, like you know. Like I was going to you know, you know, oh, I had the next Taylor Swift. Of course I did, like you know, easy peasy, but you know, not the case.
Speaker 1:What, um, what drives you to keep doing what you do?
Speaker 2:I think, I think and it's, it's weird. So a couple of things. One is I've always had this like massive fear of being homeless, like I don't know, and I've never been in like a situation. I mean, my parents were divorced when I was younger. My mom worked a couple of jobs and live with a single mom. My dad, you know, built a. My dad grew up with nothing. His dad was a mechanic but he built a big advertising agency. Um, I think I'm, I think I'm always. Just, you know, today I was driving, you see, like a homeless person inside the street.
Speaker 2:Something just hits me where I'm, just like it could be me, it could be me um, I also, like you know again, like I watched my mom, as a single mom, work multiple jobs and I'm sure it wasn't easy and you know bust her ass and cook dinners and whatnot and sacrifice. And on the flip side, I saw my dad, you know, start what was a big agency from what was a little you know closet in a, the basement of my childhood home. Um, yeah, I just and I think you know, because my dad was not, my dad was an entrepreneur and, um, please say what's? He's still alive, sorry, dad. Uh, no, actually, real quick, I just thought about something. I knew it, damn it.
Speaker 2:You asked for a funny story about the white house. That just brought something up when I was here back in the day. You had to do these forums and they weren't computers, all typewriter. I sent my paperwork in for my background investigation. I got called in one day to get service. They sat me down. They said is there anything that you're not being honest about on your forum? I'm like, nope, sir. They're like, well, we found your mother. I'm like, okay. I'm like, is there anything you want to tell us about your mom? And I'm like, no, well, we found her. I'm like, okay, uniform, that you weren't up front about. Honestly, I said no, oh my god, stupid typewriter. I put an x in this box by accident, which meant deceased, and so in the course of my first back, when they were investigating me for my first clearance, they were like okay, there must be something in the family or something like he's trying to hide his mom yeah, you know they're pretty thorough.
Speaker 1:You know that more than I do. We're all bound to make mistakes too, but you look back on it now and it's like holy shit, I did that.
Speaker 2:Oh, holy shit and it shows you just how old I am, because it was on a freaking typewriter. If you made, the thing was like 30 pages. You made one mistake. It was like, oh shit, we've got to start again. Get the white out. Oh, you made one mistake. It was like, oh shit, we gotta start again.
Speaker 1:Like get the white out. Oh no, why, don't know, you couldn't do white out because it was like you know, yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. Oh man, so is there a particular project or moment in your career that you're especially proud of? You notice I, I made some, uh, I wrote down some questions because I didn't know what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 2:No, but you know, I like this because I don't do this Like it makes you think, and again, I've been sitting on the other side watching this thousands of times. Sure, I would say, I mean there's a lot, but I mean, obviously, like I said, the CIA days, you know, I mean I can, without getting into detail, like I, I can say, like things that I was involved in a very high and indirect and really reason. Um, you know, stop things from blowing up. Yeah, that's which gave lives.
Speaker 2:On the opposite hand, you know there were times that I had to go to bed knowing that, you know, I made an analytical decision and which resulted in, you know, civilians dying, and that's that's probably the biggest reason why I left. Is I just I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't, yeah, I couldn't, yeah, but I'd say you know it was God. This is so hard, but I'd say one of them, and we're going to go back to 2009. I had a teacher in high school that that was very, very like, influential on me. This guy's Rob Dixon, very like, influential on me. He's got Rob Dixon and he was a cool teacher when he taught me, just actually retired from the NBA and, you know, came close and he ran a. He and he still does them on the board of directors. But he runs a program called project rise and it's a summer camp, a cultural enrichment and academic camp for at-risk kids from the inner city of Boston and at the time, you know, 25 kids were part of it. Uh, danny wood, from new kids on the block actually wrote the first check to uh underwrite it. That's why danny and I have been extremely close until years.
Speaker 2:Um, and people met and so I was trying to people magazine, major with baseball, were having this thing to you know, highlight people in the community. And so I nominated him and I wrote the nomination. They got 70 000. And then they picked one. Each baseball franchise got to pick their favorite from their community and we won, the Red Sox picked us. But then it was then the five living US presidents got to pick their favorite. And in the competition I remember I forget the guy that we were up against. He had like the public support of the Goo goo dolls, like he had like celebrities, like it was an online voting thing, and I just went deep and I was like there's no way, I'm letting I still call the mr dixon, like I'm no, I'm letting mr dixon like lose this thing. Like I'm back in campaign mode. I was using like voter lists from like richardson's campaign that probably shouldn't even use, but I'm like anything I add.
Speaker 2:And then I then I was like what can I do because we're not going to win the vote? So what I did is I got the, I got mayor manino, I got the mayor of boston to come out and visit the kids, I invited the governor, deval deval patrick, out to visit the kids and what I'm pretty sure to this day I caused was I know we did not win the popular vote, but what I did, I created a problem at people magazine where they were probably like oh shit, we because the mayor of boston. I got him to put out a press release that said vote for, like the one true bostonian because this guy, the teacher, grew up in boston, grew up in the hood and then devolves putting out a press release. Like I turned this thing into like this online vote. It'd be like today, like an artist wanting more votes and like the governor putting out a statement. So I created this issue where, like people magazine, when they called me, like hey, by the way, you guys, you guys won, like and I'm like oh shit.
Speaker 2:Um, by the way, like president bush, george w bush, he picked you guys as what he thought was like the most like inspiring thing. And I remember I like you know it didn't I'm like, okay, but I didn't know everything that came with it. So, all of of a sudden, like three days later, like my teacher and I, who was just like you know, we've been flown to the all-star game in St Louis and all of a sudden, like same thing, like we're being honored in a parade, a red carpet parade, and like I remember, gita was in like the pickup truck with us, like it was like the game. Two things happened on that trip. One is for the game. My teacher got to be on the pitcher's mound and a video was played nationwide.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Where George Bush was narrating it, talking about Rob Dixon and the program, and what happened that night is, all of a sudden I got an email from our web person saying the website crashed. Now this program at the time had like maybe 40 kids. We raised enough money, that basically that the website crashed because of people giving donations nationwide. Yeah, next year and every year since, like the camp now has like 200 kids.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And yeah, Now, the coolest part of that trip even though it was really cool the coolest part of that trip is, um, I got invited to Ryan. I was doing work for Kevin Euclid at the time you remember him, the Red Sox and I was hanging out with him and he invited me to go to Ryan Howard's birthday party and I was dressed like a fan, like an idiot, you know.
Speaker 1:Fox t-shirt and Red Sox underwear.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, everybody else is dreadful. I was one of the few people that wasn't a celebrity or a pro athlete, right Like so. I should have been valeting cars the way I was. Like my bank account said I should be valeting cars. I'll never forget that Kevin's talking to this girl and you know this and that, and Kevin's wife at the time. And all of a sudden the girl puts out her hand and she and he's like oh, this is you know, this is my friend, jeff. And I'm like oh, hey, I'm Jeff. And she goes hi, I'm Alyssa. And as I'm shaking her hand, I go, holy shit, ready, are you ready for this? And this is after she goes let's do.
Speaker 2:It was Alyssa Milano. No way, dude. Like was my whole life, like pass does, like my whole ass. That was like you grew up watching who's the pop. Like, like, like Michelle, yeah, like it was Alyssa Milano and I'm like holy crap. And I'm just like, oh, hi, I'm Jeff. And I'm like holy god. And then, like, we talked that whole night it's interesting because that was Twitter was the only way to communicate. Then we actually like for the next like week and a half, like DM each other, like we're talking. I remember I went home and I'm just like holy shit, like like where is this going, like what the hell, like what's going to happen? And then it just ended. I think she one day it was like oh, this is some schmuck.
Speaker 1:I met With nothing, nothing to offer and now he's probably sending me like creepy messages, being like hey, you ever come into boston, like, oh my god. So what you're doing now, though? You're being a publicist, not only for artists, but for corporate as well, and if somebody wanted to, you know, contract your services, they just go. They can look you up online yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's so if you're on the mute, so there's a few. It's kind of on the music side it's like these days you have to have like multiple websites, so it's not confusing. So on the corporate side, you know which is, you know, corporate government and non-profit stuff, um, you know, it's uh the gulk, I think. Oh yeah, wwwthegulcogroupcom, and then on the music stuff, press side, it's gulcopublicitycom and yeah, well, that's cool.
Speaker 1:You know, I've known you for, let's say, 10 years and I've seen the work that you've done. It's pretty cool. I appreciate it. I want to touch a little bit. I got to think of the right way to say this oh listen, no, I'm open book. I probably no. No, but some of your posts on facebook lately with what's been going on, you're jewish and you have there's a lot.
Speaker 1:That's why you're going back to israel I've never been to israel okay, but you're going to visit and it's part of your heritage, though yeah, definitely yeah I'm going.
Speaker 2:Uh, my parents don't understand why this is the time. Um, yeah, so obviously I've always been jewish, but you know, I was bar mitzvahed, but my um, I wasn't like my track. You know reform, you know. So you go to synagogue and rosh hashanah and yom kippur and you celebrate hanukkah and you do passover, like you know, you're not over the top, anything like that, all of the stuff. But then October 6th and 7th, so I'll never forget. So October 6th I actually was in Florida and I drove down from someone's house in Boca down to Miami to go see Frank.
Speaker 2:Frank Ray had a show that night. Frank Ray, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was working for.
Speaker 2:Frank and I was with him all night and you know he was good. They were flying out the next morning and I was going back to Boca for a few days to spend time with family and I got back to, like you know, the family's house at one o'clock and, you know, turned on the tv and that's when it was actually breaking in real time. Like everyone in people were still sleeping and I was just watching and I'm just like no, this can't be real, like in the footage, um, and then it sort of brought you know it's it was. It was that then all of a sudden became scary. But you know, I've never been vocal and it's something that I mean I'm not gonna lie. I mean I've gotten death threats.
Speaker 2:You know, over the last you know year and a half, um, you know, I mean I had, I had a guy you know in in nashville, you know, a month and a half ago, come up in my face because you know he, he know I was with a group of Jewish people every Sunday we do a walk for the hostages until everyone gets back and he took a particular liking to me and you know he was a Palestinian guy and he got up in my face and called me a baby killer and I should be dead and this and that. But, um, yeah, it's crazy, but I think you know what got me sort of fired up more so is just what I felt you know is is been, you know, a lack of response. You know, um, yeah, black response given you can hear all the nassau's finest fire department running the up three, four. I think we should be in a second.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's are they stopping in front of the building?
Speaker 2:no, no, no, they're heading down towards Broadway.
Speaker 1:Oh, that explains, it.
Speaker 2:No, but it is five fire trucks. Oh no, they're turning left on Broadway. Who knows? I don't know. Are you that?
Speaker 1:close to Broadway.
Speaker 2:I am right across. I will say I don't even care, Whatever. You know where the big naked statue is on the memory end.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:My apartment faces that big naked statue. I need to learn what the statue is called.
Speaker 1:So you wake up every day and look out the window and see naked people.
Speaker 2:You see big giant naked bodies yeah, and they're big I actually looked up online.
Speaker 1:They're like 35 feet um but back to you, continue, sorry um, so yeah.
Speaker 2:So what it was is it was just like the silence. And you know I did, I got, I got really like I actually at that time I thought about like not doing anything in music ever again, because what was turning me off and what hurt was. Here it is. You had like a, you know a festival, you know, and just like we all go on, whether it's a festival or artist show or tour, and you had almost 400 kids like that were like paragliders coming to take, butchered and murdered, and you know the girls were raped and kidnapped. It was just, it was silence. And I'm the person who, like you know whether I mean I remember, you know when black lives matter, you know I put up the black box and you know, when the asian guy was beat up on the subway in new york, I did the whole. Like you know you treated fairly.
Speaker 2:And when there was a shooting down in Florida at the gay bar, it was like hey, lgbt, we're all on. And then all of a sudden, to me it was like wait a minute, so many Jewish people and everyone's being silent. I'm like how is this city so quiet? Whether you're a booking agent, whether you're a manager, whether you're a radio person, whether you're a label executive, whether you're a lawyer or an artist, we're all at those shows and it's like you know, 300 people out of you know, I mean we're talking you know, 40% of the people that were at that festival were killed. I mean, let's take one, you know, I mean just to do numbers and math, like let's take one of Luke Cohen's shows where he has 50,000 people, maybe 22,000 people, killed at a concert, and so everyone was silent. And then it transitioned from the silence to like the craziness on the college campuses. And then it wasn't until I went to go visit GW, my alma mater, and I went and met with some students and they were telling me, like I've stopped going to well, this must be really big. This is three of my fire trucks. They stopped going to well, this must be really big through my fire trucks. Um, they, they stopped going to certain classes because they were being physically Assaulted and I just was like you know, like I can't, I can't stay quiet.
Speaker 2:On a personal level, in high school I had a swastika. Someone painted a swastika outside my mom's house. The town didn't do anything about it. When I was, when I was in second grade a kid put a knife to my neck walking home from school, thinking it was funny because I was a Jewish kid. To me it brought that back. I can't stay silent. I don't have a ton of followers, but you know what? I have a lot of members of the media that follow me. I was like I'm going to start posting. Then that came with. That kind of stuff comes with things. My mom was nervous. I don't blame her.
Speaker 2:You're going to get hurt and this and that. And I'm like my own firearms, like I'm trained, like I'm fine. No, you're not trying to. Someone can go in your apartment. I'm like, no, they can. I'm like I'm trying to like justify her, but I think it's just, it's been, it's it's been. Uh, it's probably the thing. I probably never have, like cried so many tears in a in a period of time. I've never lied awake in bed at night, unable to sleep. I've never looked over my shoulder as much.
Speaker 2:I very rarely leave my apartment unarmed because I don't know if these people that have sent nasty messages, I don't know if they live with their mom in a basement in Oklahoma or I don't know if it's someone here.
Speaker 1:You've got the right to carry you what I said.
Speaker 2:you have the right to carry.
Speaker 1:I mean, why not?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I'm not like some reactionary, like like, believe me, I've been, I've been trained by the best three letter agency in this.
Speaker 2:But you know, yeah, yeah, and but it's just yeah, it's just been, it's just been wild. And I think the thing that's also really frustrating is from the Jewish side. How many Jewish people with a platform have remained completely silent. They haven't said anything, and it's for fear of losing jobs or opportunities or fans. And a good friend of mine is James Maslow from Big Time Rush and he's probably other than Michael Rappaport and Montana know montana tucker. There's been nobody on the on the celebrity side that actually has a following, that's been vocal and has been willing to put their neck out and risk it all to try to, you know, change, change the narrative, and I think what happened is, you know the, you know, you know I'm not gonna throw blame to politics, but and I worked for him for you know, for a year and I knew Joe Biden for many years but I think I think the last administration missed a really good opportunity that when this first happened to come out and when the first thing started to happen on college campuses to condone, and because what happened is there was no messaging, there was nothing and these schools didn't know what to do and before you know it, the schools were overtaken. And then, you know, I mean GW, at my school, you know, I talked to the, the, you know the, the university police, and they were telling me, oh no, dc police, and they're like the, the, the, the president won't, the prison school won't let us on campus, and so, you know, I think everyone was trying to appease everyone, but it just it got extremely out of hand. Um, you know, now it's, you know it's, it's scary. I mean it's just uh, yeah, not the thing that I, I thought you know, in 2025 would take up the most amount of my time every day, and emotions and this, and that I mean when I say I have a crime, like you know, a moment, like you know, I've tried myself to sleep countless nights just like thinking like how, like, how can this be? And that's to the point where I've stopped watching the news because, like one, it becomes like infuriating. But two, you become, you know, and you know I'm a news junkie, I mean it's what I do, I've worked in news, um, but it's just uh, yeah, I mean, you know, even like, right now it's it's, but the problem is that it's become politicized, like everything else that's causing a problem. It's become politicized, it's become drama and you know you just.
Speaker 2:And the other thing that's changed is you talk about back during the clinton days, like you know, even, like like fox news, right, you could go and like we did fox news all the time richardson went on fox and he would go on bill o'reilly and o'reilly would ask tough questions, but it wasn't, it wasn't like 100 one side. So like right now, if you go to fox, you're only getting one story. You go to msnbc, you're only getting the other story. And so people's minds, like at this point with in, especially with the social media, it's like we've all been programmed. Like even like you turn on tv, if you have hulu or you have netflix, like you don't even figure out what you want to watch anymore. It's whatever we watch, whatever netflix puts up there is trending, right, oh, what's trending? And like they decide, you know you go to listen to music on spotify, we go to the editorial playlist, like what have they said we should listen to? And the same thing has happened with the news because, as I said, we go and do this walk. Um, you know myself and ada Ada, who you know. You know a Jewish artist and you know she's five foot tall and I give her all the credit in the world. Like you know, she gets death threats, but she's very outspoken and we go and do these walks and the number of people that you know see us walk and they've never like the number of people have never even heard of October 7th. It's just like, it's just not, it's like it's mind-blowing. And you talk to him like what do you mean? And you have a sign and so there's, like you know, like otter always carries one of the bebis kids, you know the two infants in the morning and it says like kill.
Speaker 2:And then people, like we had a woman like last week, goes, oh, what state did this happen? And we're like wait, what, uh, what, what happened october 7th? And they go and the woman looked and she goes what happened on october 7th? And I actually, true story, I, I was about to go on a date. I was about to go on a date with someone like a month and a half ago, and the um, the woman said like, oh, what did you do last night? And I was on the phone. I said, oh, I, I went to go see the october 8th movie, which is I went before, you know, to go see this movie. And she goes. Oh, what's the October 8th? The woman's like what's the October 8th movie about?
Speaker 2:I'm like it's about October 7th and it's going to happen that, starting that day, and she goes, and she looks, she goes, she goes. Well, what happened October 7th? And I was just like I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't go out with you. I don't care what you look like, I don't care how much money you have. You're too much of a shelf for me. I can't start at this. But yeah, I mean, I appreciate you asking.
Speaker 1:I mean because it's no, it's your belief, man and.
Speaker 2:I get it yeah you're afraid to ask and talk about it. It's like you know, people are afraid to be like oh, I support, like people not being raped and killed, like and and people go, what do you? What about god's like palestinian? Listen, I don't want a single, especially after what I did during the iraq war. I don't want a single person to get even a cut, never mind on either side, get killed, you know, or or or wounded. Never, no way.
Speaker 2:But like you know, you gotta like you know every. Actually you gotta start at what it begins. I mean you know, if you got it like you know every, actually you got to start at what it begins. I mean you know, if someone's married and they go and cheat on their wife and then the wife asks for a divorce, you can't get married. The wife would be like, oh my God, why are you asking for the divorce if you cheated? Same thing. You got to go back and look. And the problem is so many people don't even know. People don't know what actually started theages. But again, because so many people get their news from Instagram, they get from scroll.
Speaker 1:You're right there. It's not only Instagram, it's anything online, and they're believing what they're reading. And the thing is, if you were to and it's happened to me too I lay back, obviously a little bit because of what I do, but I understand where you're coming from. The minute you do express an opinion, you get like bam. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean you have to attack me.
Speaker 2:That's what's happening. Yeah, believe me, the messages I get are just like, like, and I used to like on the comments. Like I used to like fire back, but then you know, no, it's just one it's, it's, it's, it's a waste of my time and breath and energy.
Speaker 2:It's, you know, pulling more negative stuff versus finding a positive way to. You know, spend that time. But two, you know. Three, whatever, I can't count. I repeated algebra in high school. It's a true story for all you kids that maybe don't get in math. I repeated algebra one I suck at math all right, I wanted to be an airline.
Speaker 1:I wanted to be a pilot. My guidance counselor said you had to be really good in math and you suck in math. So let's think of something else, let's put a different direction maybe let's go.
Speaker 2:We go be flight attendants together. It's the same person. They do less and less, you know. Now you get on the flight and even if there's no turbulence, the captain at the I'm convinced it's a cost-cutting measure. You get on a flight now and they go. Oh, just so you know about, the first half of the flights could be extremely bumpy, so we're going to ask the cabin crew to stay seated, basically meaning we're not going to serve you any drinks, and then there's no turbulence, I'm convinced.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know it's a racket. No, I don't know. It's crazy. It's crazy Early bird or night owl.
Speaker 2:I used to be like I'm getting better. I have to admit, like like, since I moved here full time in december, I was doing a lot of like staying up till like one, two in the morning doing work, and now in the last like few weeks, I'm like no, like I, I try to go to bed because my apartment, my apartment, is like all floor to ceiling glass so I can look at the naked people. Um, and I don't I don't put it in the blinds now, which I know it's weird, because I think they go to the big agencies right across the street.
Speaker 2:So I'm running your living room and your boxers because it's not going to be no, I do all the time and I know, but I, I sleep and I wake up and like sometimes I can tell, like I know there's people in their offices like watching me. There's probably bets on what time I'm getting up, cause I won't put the blinds down because I feel like paying too much money for the view that I so I do I sleep with all the stuff up. Um, so because of the sun, I've converted back to, you know, getting up in the morning, plus you know that's time to be productive and uh, yeah so coffee or tea I've only had one cup of coffee my entire life.
Speaker 2:Really, I am naturally, I'm naturally caffeinated. Actually, anyone that knows me, you probably agree is they're like we don't want to know about coffee. All I've had today is like a bottle of water.
Speaker 1:So yeah, there's a different that's good for you.
Speaker 2:It's smart water it's not smart to water. This is Kirkland because I'm paying too much for rent. I'm getting like the, you know. All right, you went to Costco. Yeah, oh, yeah, heck yeah.
Speaker 1:It's Kirkland. Come on, yeah, heck, yeah. They got shirts, they got pants, they got socks, they got water, they got sheds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they get everything. There wasn't a lot like he wore shorts and flip-flops every day, right, so I bought all my clothes. I remember, like my dad's oh, there's a nice shorts, will you get them? I'm like I remember my dad goes like you know, he pulled me aside. He's like everything all right. Are you okay financially? Like you can be honest, like is everything all right? I'm like, yeah, why is what's wrong? He's like. He's like why are you buying your clothes at costco? I'm like why? Why shouldn't I buy my clothes at costco? I'm like you just love these shorts. I love Costco, yeah, but everything no. In fact, I'm going tomorrow.
Speaker 1:I get all my produce at Costco. I know I mean my wife and I. Last week we had a little time off and I said you know what? Let's go to Costco.
Speaker 2:Yes, let's go to Costco. They have the best produce of any grocery. I'll actually drive 20 miles to the Costco in mount juliet, uh, tennessee, because it's like fairly new the building. They're like six months old and the produce is correct. You can't have better produce.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I will drive 40 minutes and 40 miles round trip book, for book or movie it's probably a movie, but I'm trying to get more into books just because I, honestly, I don't think I've read a full book in probably I have years and I'm and I'm trying to and actually, um, I was on a trip, I was on a work trip with Otter a few weeks ago and she gave me a book and I started it's something about like.
Speaker 2:It's something about like, if you keep looking backwards, you won't trip, and so it's like a uh, yeah, yeah it's a book, because obviously, you know, I got a little major change going on in my life and so friends have been like, hey, maybe you should read this book, maybe you should do this, that. So, but yeah, it's, I should read more books. But you know, I need to find time. But if I less, if I read less crap on Facebook and Instagram, I could probably read some, you know. Or I could write a book and I could write, I could write my autobiography and maybe, you know, my mom would buy it?
Speaker 1:I think we just heard it Guilty pleasure. What's your guilty pleasure? Guilty pleasure, my watch keeps beeping here.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, not mine.
Speaker 1:No, mine is beeping, that's okay.
Speaker 2:I'm limited. Are we in like bonus round? We could be what's your guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2:Okay, my guilty pleasure. Okay, my guilty pleasure. I watch a lot of stupid TV. Like when I watch TV, I watch a lot of stupid TV, like things that are probably like when they're sitting around a strategy meeting at a TV station or a network. The demographic they're looking for is probably like 15 to 25.
Speaker 2:And for some reason, I'm glued to the shows and yeah, I mean you know the, the one being um below deck uh, I've uh peeled back from some of the real housewife stuff but, um, a lot of the train, a lot of the train wreck shows. And I don't know if I did those just so you know you feel better about yourself, but you're a Kardashian. I did, oh, I did when it was on, yeah, not the new one, but oh, I didn't miss an episode of the old ones. Um, yeah, no, look at, yeah, looking back. And I, when it was on, not the new one, but oh, I didn't miss an episode of the old ones yeah, no, looking back. And I think it was funny because when I first was working with that teen pop group I think that's why I probably worked, did it, because I felt like I had so much in common with them because we could actually talk about the same TV shows.
Speaker 2:I'd be like, oh my God, did you see Real Housewives of Beverly Hills this week? I my God, did you see, like you know, real Housewives of Beverly Hills this week? I was on a date the other night and the girl on the date was like she said, oh yeah, so-and-so. I'm like, oh, from Real Housewives. She's like how do you know that? I'm like. I'm like, at this point, I'm like, oh shit, this is going one way or another. Either I'm getting another date or she's going home and calling. I watched his real house and it worked for the better because we went on again.
Speaker 1:What's next? Oh, go ahead, I cut you off.
Speaker 2:What's next? On what?
Speaker 1:No, I was going to say what's next for Jeff Galko.
Speaker 2:I'm probably going to take a walk down to, maybe, the Live Oak to go watch a writer's round, because that's what you do when you live here and you're single and you got nothing to do and you know there's more live, great music possible.
Speaker 2:Um, no, I um, you know I'm actually right now I'm trying to, uh, I gotta do better. I'm working on putting like myself first, like me on the front burner. I've, even with clients, like I've I've been doing a lot of uh, I'm working to be more in the moment good, um, you know, like, for example, when I go home from mother's day in a week and a half, like I already told my mom, like I'm turning my phone off my mom's like no way, and so, doing that, I'm trying to get some more corporate clients because, as you know, I have a huge corporate client and we were tied up in a lock for four years thanks to Tony Fauci, but we won it, so that freed up about six hours a day for me that I was working on this lawsuit and stuff. So if you're out there and you need work I mean work done I'm here. You know, put it this way, folks, it's sort of like you're doing charity.
Speaker 1:Send me a contract If you hire me.
Speaker 2:If you hire me, that's less time. I can annoy Skip texting him during the day, Thinking, like you know, everyone else is just free to just chat.
Speaker 1:You know, I look forward to your text, I I look forward to your text. I look forward to your phone call.
Speaker 2:No, I don't, I don't tell people. When I ever meet people, especially when I first almost work with them, I always say to them listen, I'm not one person to tell you what you want to hear, I just tell you the truth. And so I say that with this here, that whenever I tell people who you are, and especially I'm not going to say it, but your guests for tomorrow and whatnot I always say the nicest guy I've met since I've been doing music, and I swear I say it and like what do you mean? I'm like, I'm like he's the nicest guy you're gonna meet, your your experience with him as an interview it's gonna be the most enjoyed no disrespect to other people that may be watching, but like it's gonna be the most enjoyable interview you're gonna do. You're gonna feel like spent an hour, you know, with your uncle or a family member and to me, like I've never, like I can count on my one hand like the number of people and again I came into this like guns blazing and I was an asshole, and but you know, there's certain people that you know were good to me, very good to me, like much better to me than they probably should have, and allowed me to get to where I am today, because if it weren't for people like you who let me come visit with an independent artist who probably didn't have the reason to be there.
Speaker 2:You know, as far as numbers or streams or what they were doing, you know it was you, you were an enabler and you are like even the fact that you do this and you know that you. You know you work during the day and you have a family and this and that, but you take the time to do this and provide a platform. You know, obviously tonight it's for, you know, crazy old men, but on most normal nights it's for. You know it's for. You know it's it's for a-list artists. But you spent, you put as much time and detail and energy into interviewing and up and coming out or so, a brand new artist and giving them a platform or giving them a reason to like do this interview and get off and, you know, call their mom and be like, oh my god, you don't believe.
Speaker 2:I just did this interview with this guy and blah, blah, and I think that's what I think one it's what the world needs more of, just genuine and genuine. You know, people that you admire, people that you like to work with, but I think this industry, I think I think this industry could learn a lot from you, because there's a lot of people that just have the walls and unless you have a song, they chart it through. They won't even take your phone call or this or that, and it's no one's saying you have to play the music. But you know, just because we all started somewhere exactly and, and the guy that's doing the, the playlist, if you're the head of, you know I don't want to say one of the deep.
Speaker 2:let's say, you're the head of DSP, you didn't start there. You know, and like, I think, so many people in this industry, both artists and on the radio side, it's like they forget very quickly where they came from and that somebody at some point helped them. No-transcript, no, like you know, we all had it Like. I mean, I didn't get. I got into the White House intern program because my dad had a bagel store on the side, that summer Stupid story. But anyways, a guy came in and it turned out he was an advisor to Clinton. It was dumb luck. And then he submitted my resume. It's like, you know, we all had those people and that's why, you know, even now, like you know, I always think like, just like, pay it forward. Like you know, like the, you know, even if you are it's old age, but you're going to see the people. You're going to see the same people on the way down.
Speaker 2:So it's like, why not just be nice and be supportive and get some of the leg and don't be so fricking territorial and just do do nice things for people you know, Take a deep breath, okay.
Speaker 1:Very, very kind and I appreciate that. But I love what I do and I do believe in giving everybody a fair chance. I don't like talking to Reba McIntyre and I'm going to give her the same amount of time, or I'll talk to a new artist. I don't like talking to Reba McEntire and I'm going to give her the same amount of time, or I talk to a new artist. I would give them the same amount of time that I would if I was talking to Reba McEntire. And you know, tomorrow night we talked about the guest and I've already told a few people who the guest will be tomorrow night and they're like do you?
Speaker 1:really want to interview him. I go, yeah, damn, will be tomorrow night. And they're like, do you really want to interview him? I go, yeah, damn right, they do, because you know, I mean it's jimmy allen. Say it's jimmy allen, there's a lot of talk. You know, I mean everything was let go, but I want to find out what's going on with his life now. I want to find out what you know. What do we do?
Speaker 2:to get. There's a lot from the share there and, like you know, I've been blackballed by some people. I mean I knew jimmy allen before anybody in the city, before he had a label deal or anything yep I got a lot of people and I lost projects, but I was raised two things.
Speaker 2:One I'm not gonna listen and I say it's a jimmy, right if. If you cheat, like it's a self-inflicted wound, right it is. And I also say like if, if the litmus test to be permanently blackballed is if you cheat I'm looking at a building right now that's going to have a lot of empty offices. Number two, though, you know, again, self-inflicted. But I also grew up where you remain loyal to friends and I also grew up in a country and a system you know, in a lot of things now it's, you know it's innocent until proven guilty. You know it's innocent until proven guilty and I would hope that God forbid, like you know, not that circumstance, but you know anything like my friends wouldn't just leave me or alienate me. And actually, you know it doesn't mean you got to be best friends and be pounding a chest and posting online and support me, but at least be there.
Speaker 2:Because you know we never know, we never know people's mental health. I mean you know, we saw it just yesterday. I mean there was someone in our community that you know looks for all intents and purposes like took their own life, and it's just, you know you, just, you don't, you don't write off people. I've just been raised that you don't write off people unless you've been given a real reason to. And you know Jimmy's been a friend and when I had, you know, early artists early on, when he was really big, you know he put them on shows with him. He didn't need to do that, you know, and he was there to help me on ways and you know it's just.
Speaker 2:But I'm glad he's going to be on. You know I think he'll be a great guest. You know mental health is a, you know it's a. I mean definitely tell you, I mean it's a big part to him. And you know I will say I, he's a change person. I think I think sometimes when you go through that and I think he, I think he realizes that he's getting a second chance at life right now and I think he honestly is trying to make the most of it and being a change person. And you know you pray and hope and you know people don't. You know digress and whatnot, but yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:yeah, and um, there's a lot to talk about, so we're going to get it out tomorrow night. Yeah, all because of you, jeff galko it should be because he hasn't.
Speaker 2:He hasn't talked to a lot of people. I mean, he did the thing with kathy lee gifford and I don't think I don't think there's been many others. So, um, but the same thing. When I mentioned it to him, he knew exactly who you were and he goes, oh, he said. He said, oh, that's a really nice guy from up in upstate New York. Oh, he was always really great to me and you know so, jeff.
Speaker 1:Falco, you get experienced. Skip happens. I know you know coming on. It's been really cool. We've been talking for about an hour and 20 minutes. Oh wow, it's fancy bedtime.
Speaker 2:No comments from Zach.
Speaker 1:You know, I heard him upstairs. I don't know if the Mets must be playing tonight, so I don't know. Yeah, he's been pretty quiet, I know. I don't know what the deal is.
Speaker 2:You know, since you guys are Mets fans. So in 98, I actually got to go to Shea Stadium and, yeah, I got to present the Mets with a plaque from the pitcher's mind and Mookie Wilson presented me with a jersey. I have a really cool photo. Yeah, I'll email it to you A cool photo on the scoreboard at Shea Stadium that said like please welcome, jeff Galko. Deputy manager of the White House Health and Life Initiative Against Drugs. Now, for me it was a good and bad night, because it was cool to meet Mookie Wilson and do this. But you know, mookie Wilson, I was a very, very sad kid in 1986. Mookie Wilson and his friends the world is still there, skip.
Speaker 1:The memory is still fresh. It's, oh my god we were.
Speaker 2:We were in the tucket one summer and bill buckner walked by and my dad, like my dad, my dad. So, yeah, my dad, my dad is like the real life, larry david, like living, like hanging. Living with my dad is like you, my life is one big curb. Your enthusiasm episode when we were with my dad.
Speaker 2:Now, I'm probably Now I'm screwed. My dad goes. Do people still ask you about it? Even as a kid I'm thinking you just did Let the guy be. You still think about it. You still think about how you let down the entire region and world and generations of Red Sox. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, Jeff, almost time for you to go to the writer's round. You're going to walk down over there. You know I got to see your apartment sometime because they have that view of Nashville. There it is, oh, I love it. I love it. Oh yeah, Holy crap.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Where's the AT&T building or the Batman building? Oh, I love it, I love it. Oh yeah, holy crap, there you go. There's Live Oak. Where's the AT&T building or the Batman building?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's way down. That's on the other side. I got you, I got you, you know. There's Tin Roof, live Oak, yep, okay, okay, and there's a little statue.
Speaker 1:Where's the naked there? It is Okay, yeah, right down there.
Speaker 2:And now here it is. I always tell the artists I work with like, be careful, like cause I. I'm very security conscious and I'm like, don't post pictures in your own neighborhood. This is like cause, you can't be accessible and I've now shared with everybody where I live. So, yeah, I might not go across the street, exactly Just so you know, don't mess with me, because skip Clark's the head of my security detail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, not really you should be the head of mine, but not that I ever need one. But you know I appreciate all you do and all you've done for me. So a lot of artists we we've had them on skip happens. Tonight I'm talking to the man that's done all that and now he's actually been on. He's a part of skip happens now.
Speaker 2:I love it. No, I'm an alumni.
Speaker 1:You are, you know you're no longer well, you're a skip happens virgin.
Speaker 2:I lost my virginity tonight.
Speaker 1:Let's just leave it at that. Oh, jeff Galko, thanks for joining us. Skip happens today. It's been real.
Speaker 2:It's been interesting. Hopefully I didn't talk to him. I'm worried right now when I go back and watch it. I talk too much, Not like overshared, but I just didn't shut up. You're still talking.
Speaker 1:Stay right there, my friend. Stay right there. Have a good night, everybody. Don't forget, follow, subscribe, skip, happens it's on YouTube. Just say, yeah, I love it. Hit the subscribe button.
