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Whiskey Makes Her Miss Me: Ansel Brown's Comeback Story
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Hello everybody. It is Skip Clark. I am the host of Skip Happens, and with me tonight is country artist Ansel Brown, who's joining us to talk about his comeback. By the way, he's got a new single and it's called Whiskey Makes Her Miss Me, and already I love it just by the title. It comes out in 16 days. That's going to be on the 13th of June, and his upcoming album it's called Gravity. We're going to be talking about that as well. From chart success to real life setbacks, Ansel's story and his music is all heart and we're going to dive in right now. We're going after it. Ansel, how are you? Did I say the name right, Ansel?
Speaker 1:Ansel, but it's better than well can I say and I'm sure that's happened right, I mean, everybody likes to make fun of names. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:My first my first go around I was I teamed up with a famous football player NFL player named Sean Gilbert.
Speaker 1:Oh wow.
Speaker 2:And we were doing an interview for a news channel at one of our hospital visits and his dad was with us and so we got finished with our interview and they want to interview his dad. So the whole time we're standing there he's like that asshole Brown, he is the best you know and he said it. I'm not joking, he probably said it 20. It was almost like he meant to do it, but it was like 20 times in the interview and the interviewer he could, he couldn't keep a straight face, so I was known as Ant's Asshole Brown. Well, there you go.
Speaker 1:I know, I get it, I get it. I know it's not meant to be that way, but you know that's the deal with names.
Speaker 2:And there's a story behind your name too right, Say that again. There's a story behind your name as well.
Speaker 2:Well, there's, ansel Adams is kind of the most famous Ansel of all, so he's the photographer, yeah, and I've, uh, I've I've actually been introduced as Ansel Adams a few times in my career, oh yeah and you know it doesn't really bother me because I was a huge Ansel Adams fan and um but in South Carolina there was a governor Ansel at one point and I think families in South Carolina liked him so much they started naming uh family members or kids after him. So I I still think that's where the name came from, but I can't a hundred percent say that.
Speaker 1:Okay, I get it. It is different. When I saw the name, when I got it from your team, you know, asking for the interview, I went hmm, okay, Well, you know, it is what it is right.
Speaker 2:Oh yes.
Speaker 1:It's you. Why not Own it? Own it, own it Just keep smiling too, Absolutely. So you've been doing this for a little bit, but it seems like now you're finally hitting the radio. You're going to drop a new song Whiskey Makes Her Miss Me. I love the title of that. I don't know, I think Whiskey Makes Me Miss Her. Yeah right, but I like what you did with that play on words, which is pretty cool. What inspired that song and how does it reflect where you are in life right now?
Speaker 2:Well, gosh, I've kind of lived that song and when you hear it it's that love that you wish would just really come back or happen. And in this case the woman kind of only calls me when she's drinking the whiskey and the wine makes her relax, the tequila makes her want to dance and the whiskey makes her miss me. So it was really. I did not write that song actually. It was by some heavyweight writers in Nashville and my producer brought it to me last second and now it's the lead-off single. But it was such a, the song to me just had this vibe when I heard the demo and I really just connected with the storyline and I said to my producer I said I really want to do this song and I think I want it to be my lead-off single. And sure, uh, and sure enough, it turned out really really well in the studio and I'm excited that we got we got ahold of it and got to release it.
Speaker 1:That's cool. You felt that right away. I mean I'm sure you've heard others and you just kind of go, I don't know about that, I don't know about but that song was like that's it, that's the one that's it, that's the one that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and actually I had four on this album, um that that kind of happened like that cool.
Speaker 1:So we talk about the album. We're talking about gravity. That's the album that's coming out, so this is going to be the first single off of that yeah, it's, it's, it's going to be, it's going to come out in two eps, so we'll have ep1 called the rise, we'll have ep2 called falling into place, and then the full album release.
Speaker 2:this fall will be gravity. Why the dual release? Well, I was going to do I've got 15 songs and I was going to do them all you know, all at once. But we started talking and really you know, you only get one chance to make a comeback and and to me, me as a marketing guy, I want to capture attention, and so my story on the album the rise and the falling into place and the overall word gravity meant more than you could understand In my life.
Speaker 2:I say life's taken a few bites out of me in the last 10 years. And I'm getting ready to bite back.
Speaker 1:You should.
Speaker 2:But I felt like two EPs allow me to one focus on radio releases.
Speaker 2:So, we'll have one single and then in July we'll have a second single called we Make America Run, which is an amazing song, and then we'll have the full EP release. So I get that much time to really garner some media attention. And then we'll have a second set of songs that make up the second EP. And the same thing we'll release one lead off single, then we'll release a second single and then we'll release the second EP. Now, not all of the songs may make it onto the final album or we may even add a song that we don't currently have. So I really wanted to drag out the releases because it is a big album and I've spent a lot of time really thinking through the songs and the selection of the songs that I've written and that others have written, and it just felt like it was the way to go on this comeback.
Speaker 2:I call it a relaunch.
Speaker 1:I love it and I don't know I'm going to just slide something over here. I don't know if you can see it on your screen, but Ellie Brown is on there and she's sending some love and that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:She's my aunt.
Speaker 1:Well, that's awesome, hi, ellie. I love it. I love it. You know the support of family is so important, so that's nice when I see the comments come up like that. Exactly, exactly, you know, if I think back a little bit, you had such a strong start. What mid-2000s Music Row Discovery Award. I probably saw you at CRS at one time back then I was definitely active there? Yeah, I went to the Music Row party. I did all that CMA Buzz. How was your perspective on success? How has that changed since then?
Speaker 2:Oh it's. You know, we talk about sports and I think we're both sports fans A little bit. I'm baseball, we're big baseball fans. Yeah, I love baseball, I love football. You know, my favorite is football. Just to be honest there, who's your team, who's?
Speaker 1:your team. Come on, yeah, because I'm ready. I'm ready. Who's your team?
Speaker 2:But, um, you know, I, I don't know the first time it was such an adrenaline rush and I was so new, you know, wet behind the ears, very vulnerable, very uh, which I'm still. I consider myself a vulnerable artist because I feel like vulnerability is a superpower and, um, especially for a singer and I'm sure you probably feel the same way being a DJ in your life it's, you know, vulnerability connects you. Oh, my gosh, yeah, and I, you know, I have to say that the first time I was anxious a lot when I would perform. I was, I didn't want to fail, obviously, and I got such a powerful start. I was CMA, debut spotlight CMA who knew to watch.
Speaker 2:I was artist of the month for the CMA. During CMA Fest I had a great reception at Fanfare, just all sorts of things just fell into place, and I didn't have a major label, by the way was I was doing all?
Speaker 1:this on my own with sean, and that's long bit not to interrupt you, but there's a lot of artists now that are breaking away from the major labels and doing it on their own well, when you talk 70, 30 deals, or you talk not you know, a lot of artists right now are getting 595 deals.
Speaker 2:They're getting five percent of the hundred percent of their royalties go to the you know and and they're going to pay back the label for 10, 20 years um in terms of the money that the label's spending on the artist.
Speaker 2:So so it's smart to not. You know, just there are reasons to do it. And then there are reasons to just rely on the digital world as we live in and really just build your fan base. You know, radio is great, but I think you need, you know, with radio, to break out in radio, one, you need a great song. Two, you know, in country radio you've got to have the promotion capital to go out and push a song. And then three, it's, it's a. It's a. It's just a luck game. Right, it takes luck being at the right place at the right moment. So a lot of people can't rely on radio right now in country music.
Speaker 1:They got to rely on the digital side. Absolutely A hundred percent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's, it's a. It's an interesting world. But I think, if you do the right, my theory is that I feel like I can do anything that a major label could do myself. I feel like I can come up with the ideas, the plan. I can connect with the brands, I can do the things that I need to do to stand out and build my story where people it almost forces people to talk about you and to experience your music in both the entertainment world you know when I'm talking about that radio DJs or program directors that hear about a story that's percolating. And that's really what my goal is as an artist. It's always to do what everybody's kind of like.
Speaker 2:How did he? How did he make the final space shuttle stuff happen? How did he do that? That's what I want to. How did he? How did he make the final space shuttle stuff happen? Right, how did he do that? That's what I want to continue to do, but in a bigger way. This time I feel like I was going through the room, through a dark room, and I was feeling my way through that room with the lights off, but this time I feel like I'm entering a lit up room. Does that make sense and I'm very I'm seeing what I know, I've experienced this.
Speaker 1:Makes a whole lot of sense, and you were telling me about the reason behind the dual release and all that you decided on that by yourself.
Speaker 2:Right, you sat down. I can't say by myself. I think my publicist was the first person to ask me if I had thought about that.
Speaker 1:All right, but nobody else was really telling you what to do. Correct, that comes down to it being all you.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Cool.
Speaker 2:I like that. And it's a challenge to be an independent artist. But it's also a blessing, and it's a blessing because I can relate and connect with people at a deeper level. I was talking to a major brand today, right before I got on here, for about an hour and a half conversation, and the brand is thinking about teaming up with me. I'm thinking about teaming up with the brand and we're thinking of ways to team up.
Speaker 2:We'll just put it that way, and we're going to present to somebody else in the company and it was exciting to sit there and talk to this person about ideas and ideas that relate to a brand in the retail sphere and music.
Speaker 2:And if people could feel the energy that happens when you have a conversation like that and it deals with your own music and it deals with your music career as a as a non major label artist. It is. I can't even say how rewarding it is because it's it's. It doesn't even measure, it's, it's above whatever the measuring stick is. And, uh, that's what I get charged by. I'm a marketing guy at heart and that's what I get charged by. I'm a marketing guy at heart.
Speaker 2:My business is all related to marketing and advertising. I'll give it a plug. It's Envisionative and we're an agency, so I live for marketing ideas and I get such a charge out of talking to people like that and they're willing to talk. So if artists have the right ideas and the right music or the right song, it's just like when I did the final space shuttle events for NASA, I had one song that I wrote that I felt really connected with the astronauts and I sent it to the lead astronaut at Johnson Space Center and I got a response about six months later with her calling me telling me how much she loved the song.
Speaker 2:She loved it so much she's like I'm sending this to DC and let's see what happens. I didn't hear anything for another year almost, and the final space shuttle launch was happening like 12 weeks away and I got a call as I was making a video for that song at an airport and they said you need to come to the phone right now. It's NASA. And NASA said hey, we've talked to X, y I'm not going to say the artists, but they are major, major artists.
Speaker 2:But we love your song. We would be privileged and honored if you would come perform it for the final space shuttle oh my gosh, and the final space shuttle launch. And so, yeah, the final space shuttle launch. And so that that changed. I mean, that impacted my whole family, because it wasn't just me that got to experience that, it was my whole family and we, we went. They loved everything so much because, again, I'm a vulnerable artist and I say that not in a negative way but in a positive way.
Speaker 2:I believe in vulnerability as a superpower and I tend to connect with people at a deeper level than a lot of people connect, and it's one of my God-given talents is to be able to connect like that. And so after that first experience, they were like, hey, can you come and do the final space shuttle landing? It's a private event for astronauts of the history of the program, world media and, of course, dignitaries. And I was like, yeah, and they were like hey, can you get on this national radio, country talk radio show and do a live broadcast from the final?
Speaker 1:landing.
Speaker 2:And I did all of that for the landing and they're like, hey, can you come back and speak after the administrator of NASA to all of the employees that are going to lose their jobs because the program was ending? So they asked me to talk to everybody in a way that would uplift their spirits as this program was coming to an end, and that was a huge honor. And then I went on for 10 years to have relationships with NASA on an official basis, with Space Act agreements for youth programs and veteran programs.
Speaker 1:Are they going to put you in a capsule? No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:I kind of hinted that I wanted to get up there at some point, but it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1:I'm totally captivated here. You've got my attention. I'm just. I didn't expect this. This is like dude, you're the best, keep going. I'm not going to stop you.
Speaker 2:If people just understood the power of music. I used to be a worship leader back in the day.
Speaker 2:Churches use music to get people ready for a sermon. It's because music does something that almost nothing else can and it just it's. It opens you up. It opens you up to to emotional your own emotional vulnerability. It allows you to be open to whatever that message is, and for me, country music is very similar in terms of what you want it to do, because it's story-based. It's something that really drives home a message, whether it's a funny message or a sad message or an excited message. And I think NASA realized the power. I mean NASA realized it so much that they had me judge a song competition nationally for youth, and these are youth that are involved in their tech transfer program. That's an amazing man. I could have a whole podcast with you just about that program.
Speaker 1:We just might have to do that down the road.
Speaker 2:It's eye-opening and extraordinary, and so we ended up doing a national song competition. My manager and I chose the winning song. We wrote and finished the song with this teenage girl and NASA paid everybody to go out and record it in Nashville and the girl got to experience that whole the way that goes, and she had cerebral palsy on top of that which was when they didn't tell me anything about the girl.
Speaker 2:So when I went to Kennedy Space Center to meet her at this big event it was called the Optimus Prime Awards event and when I walked in there was a girl in a wheelchair and and my heart just I melted immediately. I was like because they knew my background in children's hospitals and my bigger heart, tour and all the work I had done with Ronald McDonald houses.
Speaker 2:I mean it couldn't have been like there was nobody knew that she had cerebral palsy, but the fact that they knew and they didn't want to tell me because they really wanted to see my vulnerability.
Speaker 1:Your reaction to the whole situation.
Speaker 2:I cried. Right there I met this girl. I instantly connected with her. She went to Nashville. She's sitting there with my producer and the producer is noticing that she was kind of singing along as I was recording.
Speaker 2:And we asked her do you sing? And she's like, yes, I sing, I wrote the song, I started the song, and so we got her in the studio and she ended up doing the background vocals on that song. And then, do you know about the radio station that's in the Nashville? What's the big event center in Nashville where the big conference center.
Speaker 1:You're talking about the. Sirius XM has a studio up in the tower of the. Oh my God, I'm having a brain fart. It's a big, I'm sorry somebody on the chat can probably tell us, and I walk by it all the time.
Speaker 2:But it's not in downtown Nashville, it's in the suburbs. And it's not in downtown Nashville, it's in the suburbs and it's a huge conference center and they've got a big, famous old radio station in that conference center that you walk by.
Speaker 1:Oh, are you talking about the WSM?
Speaker 2:That might be it, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'd have to think it could be, because they're big Nashville, they have a lot of history with the Opry and what have you?
Speaker 2:Um, but I'm thinking of the Gaylord the Gaylord entertainment center.
Speaker 1:that right Isn't that? Uh?
Speaker 2:right, that's where it was.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it has the big tower outside.
Speaker 2:Yes, right, and there is a radio station in there?
Speaker 2:Yes, so we got to go and when the song released, they were the ones that debuted it and and they had us both on to have me sing it, had her and I interview and it was just like this amazing experience that you couldn't have written out as a movie in my mind. And we went on to surprise her when we were finished with the song. We surprised her in Oregon at her high school, and I have never seen a student get so much love from an entire population of a high school. We had to do two cons, two performances, because there were so many students, and to this day it's one of those things that are just locked in my brain permanently, like it was yesterday. And it was an incredible experience to be able to stand up on stage with her. In fact, if you look at my LinkedIn profile, you'll see her on the stage sitting with me in that moment.
Speaker 2:I still have it as my LinkedIn profile picture.
Speaker 1:I did.
Speaker 2:I don't think I changed it but, I, it's something that's always stuck with me.
Speaker 2:It was just an amazing. I can't tell you how amazing that was almost as big as doing the shuttle stuff, to be honest. It was that important and impactful to me. But I went on to have three Space Act agreements with NASA. We almost had a TV show on Discovery Channel together and I don't like to talk about failures, but it was one of those things that timing just wasn't perfect and we had just gotten a letter of intent from Goddard Space Center and everything kind of crumbled down that was during my time off from music.
Speaker 1:Don't ever say that's a failure, because yeah, it wasn't, it was, you know it's. You had that opportunity and it just didn't work out and something else happened.
Speaker 2:So my main person at nasa, daryl. His name's daryl and he's he might be listening right now. Actually, um he uh you know, he's just wonderful man he's.
Speaker 2:He might be listening right now actually. Um, he uh. You know, he's just wonderful man he's. He was just all in on what we were trying to accomplish together and we had Dale jr's uh people involved in the show as well, and it was just one of those things. Timing wasn't just, you know, timing just didn't work out and um, but I still have a relationship with them at NASA and it's been something that changed my life. That wouldn't have happened without music.
Speaker 1:No, it absolutely would not have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and artists need to understand that's the power of one song and if you can figure out the process of getting that song that you believe in, that has the message that you connect with something else. Artists need to always remember the song is powerful. It's more powerful than just playing on the radio or streaming and people listening to it. It can have impact in your life from a business perspective as well.
Speaker 1:Right, you know, ellie's on here still. And Ellie says if anybody is wondering, I call Ansel Michael. He's my nephew, she's making it. No, she's making it no. Also, do you know? I mean, I'm looking at all these comments coming up. Hello there, I just woke up at 734 am In Vietnam, mike. Is that Mike? You're Rita.
Speaker 2:Mike, you're right. Oh, he's my manager.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's in, he's in Nam, he's in Vietnam, he was in China for two weeks and then he moved.
Speaker 2:He went over to Vietnam, uh, last week and uh I, I was like great timing, mike, I mean my singles coming out on the 13th. But you know, hey, go ahead and go to Asia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where are you going, dude? I got 16 days my signal's going to drop to radio. Where the heck are you going?
Speaker 2:We've been living this reversed life cycle or day cycle, because he's 10 hours ahead of us Right, right, depending on Whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, I get all that messed up, but still.
Speaker 2:It's been kind of comical the way we've been communicating.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think it's great though. I think it's great, though I think it's awesome, you know, I mean you've been doing all this and you took that long pause from music because of health and personal challenges.
Speaker 2:What was it like, though, actually stepping back into the studio after?
Speaker 1:all that time away.
Speaker 2:Dude, it was actually a four-year process. I started back in 2020 with a guy that's known as the TikTok cop and he's pretty famous. He's been on Dr Phil and, anyway, I got kind of irritated that he got fired for his opinion and for one of his videos and so I said hey, can I write a song and you collaborate with me on it and just make sure that you agree with my message.
Speaker 2:It's called Middle of the Madness and I wrote it not to alienate anybody, because I'm not a political person. I don't believe in alienating any of my fans. I love everybody that likes me and I put a lot of effort into that one song and that was the one song that relit my desire to do this.
Speaker 2:And it's not that I lost the desires that I went through a dark time in my life and then I went through a health issue with afib, with chronic afib, yeah, yeah, it hit me younger than most people, of course, now, with these people that are in their thirties and even twenties, are realizing they have AFib because a lot of people don't know that they're having it and um, and I'm trying to get the awareness out about that because you don't, you, just a lot of people can't tell.
Speaker 2:And uh, luckily I could tell every time that I had it. But I went through all of that and I got to that. And I got to that point during COVID where all the anti-police stuff was happening and I just got irritated by it when I heard his particular story and I was like, okay, look, I know not everybody has to agree, not everybody has to agree that cops are good or bad or whatever it is no-transcript have bad apples. And I wanted to write the song in a way that admitted that if I wasn't raised a certain way, I might not feel the same. And that's a big part of this song is understanding that not everybody views what I view the same way. And I wanted to have that as something that's admitted in this song but at the same time to let people know it's crazy to think we don't need police officers.
Speaker 2:And it's crazy to think that they should not intervene in somebody that's getting attacked.
Speaker 1:It's unbelievable. I have a godson who's a chief of police here in upstate New York and when we sit and talk, we were just doing that on Memorial Day he was hanging out. He came over and I interviewed him as I did the broadcast for the parade and just you know afterwards and stuff he was telling me and the stress and the anxiety and just what, the emotions from so many different types of people, just I'm like I wouldn't be able to do that. I'd just I'd be. I wouldn't be able to do that, I'd just I'd be. I don't know, I don't. I don't even know how to explain it.
Speaker 2:It's a hard, hard line of work to have as a person in the United States. It's just one of those things that you know. I feel like they just people tend to use it as a political thing, and it really that's where you get into a bad situation, where people are getting hurt for no good reason and, um, and people are being blamed for things that they're just trying to help and do what anybody that had a you know I want to say, but anybody that has a brain would understand you've got to do something to stop this and I, you know.
Speaker 2:So I wrote the song. It's it's out on any of the streaming services. But that got my music, that got my love for music restarted and I started going to the studio at that point and slowly I finished songs that I had been writing with Brent Bowers and Harrison Foreman, who are just great guys who kind of jumped up and they were the ones that first talked me into getting back into music. They said it's time, just start. Let's start finishing your songs, let's record them. And we did it at a place in Salisbury, north Carolina, and that took me literally three, about three and a half years, north Carolina, and that took me literally three, about three and a half years. And I stopped and finished in 2024, right around March, and but something told me I wasn't done with the album. So I I didn't do anything. I didn't go on.
Speaker 2:I kept doing my children's YouTube channel with my daughter and you know, continue to focus on my, my business, and I don't know about eight months later I got connected, or reconnected with my original producer, Cliff Downs, who's an amazing, talented uh just well-respected. You know, he's worked with Garth, he's worked with uh, just, he writes with guys that you would be like. Okay, this is this is awesome.
Speaker 2:He's just an amazing person, but he had cancer and uh, he was, he had beaten it, Um, and we got connected and I said I want you to hear what I've kind of been playing with in the studio. And we both agreed. After he heard it he was like hey, man, I want you to hear some songs. And so, cause he had been a president of a big publishing company and he couldn't record reason why I didn't ask him to begin with was he could not record or produce albums under the terms of his corporate job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Only with the writers and the artists that were on that it was restricted from what he could do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I didn't know that he had left and he decided he wanted to go back to his own business of being a producer. And so when he told me that, I was like maybe this is why I was waiting, I feel like there's a plan here. And sure enough, he brought me four songs. That just changed everything to me and before you know it, I was in Nashville, we were recording. We're using some of the best session players that artists can use, and Whiskey being the first one, but there's three others that two are going to be on the first EP, two will be on the second EP, and we may be doing one or two more songs that might end up on the final album. And I don't know, man, I honestly felt like we never stopped talking, even though we kind of did, for a good number of years we didn't really communicate.
Speaker 1:And it just came off flooding back and when I was in that studio with him, right where you left off, you picked up.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So to speak.
Speaker 2:The great thing about Cliff is he is a teacher at heart. He studies every word in a song as you're performing it in the studio and he really makes you think about and not taking any of what Brent and Harrison, just these guys that pushed me to go different direction than I had ever gone. So they, they got me to do that and nobody else has.
Speaker 2:But with Cliff it was like the sensei, you know, it was like the, the, the master, coming to the students and you know, you just feel this, this power that he has and I don't know man, it is just awakening for me and from that point on I was like you know what I'm going to.
Speaker 2:I'm going to launch this next year this was back in 2024 and we're going to finish this thing and I'm going to do it in a bigger way than I was planning to. I was like this is the moment that I need to get back out and I need to turn heads and I need people to go. How the hell is Ansel doing this again? And, I think, being a disruptor in my own way? I don't I'm not saying that I'm truly a disruptor, but I am. I disrupt in a in a way that I think a lot, of, a lot of artists can't. Because of my experiences and my background, it gives me an, you know, that extra bit of power to my story that I think, opens doors and allows me to allow, or allows me to get somebody to listen and, um, cause my, my stories go on and on. Man, I don't think anybody's experienced as much as I have as an artist.
Speaker 1:It definitely sounds that I need to ask uh, tell me about bullet Bob and Bombshell Babe.
Speaker 2:How did oh wait, how did you?
Speaker 1:hear. How do you know about Bullet Bob? Because I am looking at his comment. I don't know if you can see it or not. Let me see if I can bring it over here. Let's do this. I don't know, can you see?
Speaker 2:that that's a celebrity right there.
Speaker 1:Bullet Bob and Bombshell babe. Love your music and support you.
Speaker 2:How cool man yeah, bullet bob is a famous nascar um uh, souvenir and merch guy. What? Oh yeah, he came in what came in with jeff gordon when jeff gordon first started, uh handled his merch and everything for I don't know seven years, as he took over NASCAR, um. Then he moved into Dale Earnhardt Um, wow. And then he handled Chevy. The guy is a legend.
Speaker 1:So let me ask are you a NASCAR fan?
Speaker 2:I love NASCAR, I I like racing, I I've written a theme song for a world of out or the world of outlaws. Racing organization for dirt racing.
Speaker 1:Um.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't um. I love NASCAR. At the same time, I'm disconnected a little bit because in the last 10 years I really focus. I was really not focused on um, I was focused on football. That was about it I got.
Speaker 2:You still haven't told me your team so just energy that I get when I go to a nascar event and the adrenaline, um, and same thing with the dirt racing. They're both really cool to watch in person, like I actually love watching them in person and um, but I I'm, you know, yeah I've been to charlotte. I live in race city oh really, yeah, this is mooresville. North carolina is race city, usa.
Speaker 1:This is where 90 of the race teams are, so yeah, um, I've been to the charlotte race a couple of times and I remember going. I don't know where we went, obviously not from there but we ended up seeing a lot of the shops, and I think we went by Earnhardt's place.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's. That's right out near where I live.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, okay, Cause I still remember. I think it was like a railed fence, it was just, but I mean it was, you know, kind of a square building. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, my God that is so freaking cool.
Speaker 2:So Dale Earnhardt was my. Okay, daryl Waltrip and Dale Earnhardt are my two favorite drivers.
Speaker 1:Okay, daryl.
Speaker 2:Waltrip was my first favorite because he was so funny. He was hilarious to me and just as a kid I just grew up loving his Tide car and I think it was Tide and just watching Daryl Waltrip. Later on I ended up leading Michael Waltrip's children in worship service for a number of years and that was when I was doing worship.
Speaker 2:And then I became infatuated with Dale Earnhardt right before his life ended. I had really connected to him as a driver because I liked the black three car and I liked his aura, because I saw him doing an interview about his marketing of his products.
Speaker 1:And as a marketing guy.
Speaker 2:That's like spice on my food when I hear anybody talk about their drive for good marketing. It just, it just stuck with me and I started rooting for him. And then I watched the day that he he lost his life.
Speaker 1:I was watching that day, yeah.
Speaker 2:I saw that race and and right down the street from me, his body laid in rest in the funeral home for a day or two, um, and I just remember vividly just the sign on the funeral home and their prayers and and, uh. So I would say Dale Earnhardt ended up touching my, my heart more than any other driver.
Speaker 1:I bet and um yeah yeah, it's, it's just uh.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm sure Bob's got things to say. Bullet Bob would have some things to say right now.
Speaker 1:Next time I go to a race, I'm going to be like walking up to these trailers and going are you bullet bob? Are you bob? Yeah, I'm skipping the podcast bullet.
Speaker 2:Bob and I get coffee a lot together and we we hash out ideas. He's a is a huge supporter of my music, um, just a great guy and you know. You know I like I. That's the other thing, the first time I felt like I was doing this by myself.
Speaker 2:Even my family was disconnected, you know, and I've got five kids and I, you know, I felt like I kind of left my home, went to Nashville, you know, I performed on Broadway for a year and a half. I, you know, I I've done it all there. Yeah, my, I built my fan base, kind of Nashville West, and this time I feel like everybody was ready for me to do this and wanting me, including all the veteran friends that I have. They were all wanting me to do this and I feel like this time I really want to. I really want to resonate out of the Carolinas, out of the southeast, um, and really focus on my hometown, my, my home states, um, and really build my, my fan base here first and focus on it instead of just going to Nashville, right? So where? Where are you? I'm in, uh, just north of Charlotte, north Carolina, in an area called Lake Norman.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'll be flying over your house next Thursday because I'm flying into. Charlotte for a wedding, a family wedding.
Speaker 2:That would be great. We've got to do lunch. Man, I'm involved in a couple of restaurants. Oh, dude, I mean, if I've got some time I'll text you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, absolutely. And you're talking about family and how you kind of broke away from them for a little bit. But now you're back together and I'm watching all these comments. There's a Tracy Hoffman, a Michael Deckman who, by the way, is saying Buffalo Bills. Tracy Hoffman, I mentioned you got Mike on there from Vietnam. Deanna Mitchell I can go on and on. I mean you got a ton man and your aunt continues to post. So can you hear me? Okay, I hope you can. Can you hear me, ansel? You know what I don't know he's like, but just shake your head, can you hear me?
Speaker 2:Am I Something's?
Speaker 1:going on with my system. No, I got you. Now I can hear you.
Speaker 2:Hold on one second.
Speaker 1:We're hanging. But Ansel Brown is who I'm talking with tonight and what a story. Just hang on with us, because I know he's going to be right back. But he's an independent artist, got a brand new song. It's Whiskey Makes Her Miss Me, and it's a very vivid title. I love the title and his whole story of you know.
Speaker 1:He was on a roll early on and then now he is. You know, he took little break, some issues, and now he's making a comeback and I just love seeing all you guys posting. Uh, it's so, so good when I get to talk to somebody like that. Uh, you know, and I see, well, jacob smalley is an artist, uh, but still, everybody else, uh, you know, got bob and deanna and of course mike. Uh, you know he's in v. Else, you know, got Bob and Deanna, of course Mike. You know he's in Vietnam. You know this is being watched all over the world, which is cool. And while I have your attention, you could always go to YouTube, subscribe to Skip Happens. So it's pretty good. I'm trying to see if Ansel is going to pop back in. I can hear him. I don't know, but yeah, pop back in. I can hear them. I don't know, but uh, yeah, and so uh, is it? Uh d d vasita, uh love whiskey.
Speaker 1:Can you hear me okay I can hear you loud and clear, I just don't see you. Oh, now I see you there, you are ladies and gentlemen, he has returned from the abyss. He is back I've had.
Speaker 2:I've had gremlins in my computer today. I'm not sure what's going on.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's okay. No, I got you now you look fine.
Speaker 2:I was talking to all your friends over here, are you kidding? It was all cool Over there. I'm trying to see I can see the chat now.
Speaker 1:Can you see the chat? I don't know if I, it's a different.
Speaker 2:I can see it now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, so it's all there.
Speaker 2:Deanna Mitchell. Let's see.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Oh, eldridge Bravo, he's got a song on my album.
Speaker 1:Very cool, so that's that's.
Speaker 2:EB. Uh, this is cool. I you know, I you know, I you know, I know we were going to get into sports and everything, but I, I, um, I I gotta say that, uh, the love that I'm feeling and I've got some supporters that I can't tell you how important they are to me, um, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, I totally get that, I totally get that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's just good because going through some of the stuff that I went through, um, I don't know, it just feels right. It just at this moment in my life, you know I've got to. You know, build a good business, I've got a four-year-old, it sounds it God bless you, man, god bless you.
Speaker 1:You know what I want to hear about. You talked about it earlier before we went on and I saw somebody else mentioned it but your YouTube channel, seriously, sophia, with your daughter, that adds such a personal layer, and so let me ask how his fatherhood shaped your music, because of that.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I'm trying not to cry right now, sorry.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's all good, it's all good. Good the kids that I have are just amazing spirits.
Speaker 2:All of them are creative spirits, you know.
Speaker 2:You know some of them and I said I sound like I have a pack because I did that's all right you know some of them, uh, very highly creative ones, like a, a major up-and-coming video game artist, nice, or some very major games like Halo, infinite and Squants games, high on Life. And another is just as creative but very analytical, so he's getting into programming. And then another is like hands-on, you know, kinetic learner, but very creative. That's huge. And yet another is, you know, just, you know the architect, the architect type, and just very, you know, wants to be good at that, but still very creative. And then my daughter is just hands down, she's just like the only girl in the family. So you know what that means, oh my.
Speaker 1:I do she rules everybody. I do.
Speaker 2:And cause all the, all the boys, cause they got four boys and one girl and uh, she is. Uh, she is. Probably she might be the she's up there on the creativity scale, but she started really early, she's. She leads me in our channel. And if you're looking for a country artist, don't look at that channel. I'm just a goofy dad in that channel.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love it, I love it. You know, that's the whole ability, right? Yeah, no, exactly. And you know, when I do this podcast, one of the other reasons I do this is not only to get to know somebody like you or an independent artist, or even go a little bit deeper with a well-established artist, but my point is to prove that you're real people too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you shop the same stores, you, you, you know you do all this with your kids same way exactly?
Speaker 1:and? And what did I tell you before you went on that you know I do the podcast, I'm. It's not your typical podcast, it's, it's a conversation. It's not. It's not your typical podcast, it's, it's a conversation. It's not it's not just an interview saying who are your influences and this and that. Yes, I'm asking various questions, but you know, I want to know who your favorite football team is. I want to know who your favorite the Panthers, they were telling me, the bills, or the Cowboys, oh no, no, listen, I like.
Speaker 2:I like any good football team, I respect you just like a good game song I was. I was a Green Bay Packer fan for a while. I've been a Pittsburgh fan at times. I've there are. There are certain teams that speak to me and.
Speaker 2:I kind of look at you know. Look at the teams that are the Buffalo Bills, do speak to me. I, honestly they're you know they're kind of look at you know. Look at the teams that are the Buffalo Bills, do speak to me. I honestly they're you know they're kind of the Panthers North, uh, cause we we've shared a lot of uh front office people and and coaches and you know. So there's there's just a natural connection. But I just love football. I was a football coach. Um, I coached youth football.
Speaker 1:We went to a couple of.
Speaker 2:Superbowls and won a couple of Super Bowls in a row, and I've written a song for the Panthers called we Call it Football, and very, very tied into the community relations team over at the Panthers with Riley. Fields who's just. He's an amazing person and you know, I was kind of there luke combs before luke combs maybe was even I don't know, I I think he was born, probably, but I was.
Speaker 2:I was in that role with the panthers for a while and we, uh, we did a song together called we call it football so um, I'm told you secretly love the cowboys oh, that's okay. Now I get what's happening. Yes, some of my, some of my people want me desperately to be fans of their teams.
Speaker 1:That's what I get it. I love it, I love listen, good football is good football though and I can watch any game on sunday even if my team's not playing yeah, do you have like the nfl ticket so you have, like you can watch any and every game?
Speaker 2:that's crazy, I've dabbled in that, but I don't have it. Currently. I can go go to a sports bar. I've got a place called hot shots right here in Mooresville. That's very supportive of my music. I can. I can go there anytime I want to watch any game I want to.
Speaker 1:I love it, I love that. Yeah, what about baseball or no?
Speaker 2:No, I love. I grew up Um I played baseball as a youth. I coached lots of baseball for youth.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I love it from a sports perspective and I played catcher growing up. I was a very good catcher. I played some shortstop. I should have been a pitcher. I was the kind of player that never. I didn't have enough confidence when I was young to be the quarterback or the pitcher and I wish I would have been or allowed myself to try to do it, because I always had the strongest arm on the team and I remember one time I launched a football in practice for my youth team and I think it went about 70 yards, 65 yards.
Speaker 2:And that was pretty major yards, 65 yards, and that was pretty major. That was like a pretty good throw for a huge person that was out of college and maybe above, maybe even above, NFL age. Um and uh.
Speaker 1:I just remember the kids kind of looking around they're going.
Speaker 2:He just threw that but I kind of missed, like I feel like I missed an opportunity because I didn't really have anybody. My dad was in the Navy so he was gone a lot and I didn't really have anybody pushing me to go hey, you should be a pitcher or you should be a quarterback. So I was always like a defensive end on football.
Speaker 2:Gotcha, gotcha Good one, and I got the quarterback a lot, or I was, or I was, you know, a catcher in baseball, so I was catching the ball. But that was also because I had a strong arm and I could throw people out at second ball, so I was catching the ball but that was also because I had a strong arm and I could throw people out at second.
Speaker 2:Yes, but yes, I love love baseball, Um, and uh, I love ice hockey. I love watching, uh, my hurricanes, you know I. You know, um, I used to be a Capitals fan, Uh, so I did switch to the hurricanes and I used to be a Redskins fan, by the way, Sorry, whoever wanted me to be a Cowboy fan.
Speaker 1:Well, now they say you're a Steelers fan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh boy, your friends are really I'm talking to the city of Pittsburgh right now about something, so I'm pretty excited about that's cool. Yeah, it has to do with a song called we Make America Run, which is really a good song for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it. See, like I said, we're a big baseball family. I do enjoy football, but maybe you're a little more into it than I am, but I do enjoy watching a good game. It's always great. But we're New York Mets. Okay, the team here in Syracuse is the AAA affiliate of the New York Mets, the Syracuse Mets. I work as one of their PA announcers, which is cool.
Speaker 1:I love it, oh that's awesome Because we see a lot of the major players at this level and it's just so much fun. My son works in the press box. He's, as I told you before, he's down syndrome and he's 24, but he's up there working. He does the scoreboard. It's just amazing, amazing. But we've been doing baseball for a long, long, long, long time. We used to house the players. My wife and I would open up our home to the players years ago when they would come into town and not have a place to stay.
Speaker 2:I don't think that happens today.
Speaker 1:It does not. They don't allow them to stay. That's, that's all. See like? I don't think that happens today. It does not. They don't allow them to do that. But a few years ago, up until 2019, that's when it stopped oh, and it went that long yeah yep and uh being, you know, at the games all the time.
Speaker 1:We get to know, we get to know the coach, we know the manager, we know everything about it and it's like, well, if somebody's coming in and they need a place to stay, have them call us. So almost every year we would have a player or two staying with us and nine times out of 10, they were Latino, spoke no English, so it was rather interesting in the house. But I will say they took over my wife's kitchen and, like when the wives were here and stuff, yeah, oh my God, could they cook?
Speaker 1:My wife is from columbia, south america all with the plantains and just oh my god, so yeah, so I can't diet here now, my uh type 2 diabetes here, um, but no, it's happening. It's happening. You know, um, it's amazing talking to you. It is just. I don know. I've done so many podcasts and I don't think I mean I love them all. Don't get me wrong, but this whole conversation with you and your background and what you've done and what you believe in and where you want to go, and and the friends and the support that you have, is amazing.
Speaker 2:Thank you Really amazing.
Speaker 1:I did not know what to expect because, I'll be honest with you, I wasn't sure who I was talking to. You know I got a nice email. I mean I love you know your PR people. They're great and I work with a lot of them in Nashville. You know they send artists my way, they want to get it out and stuff. But it's just amazing what you've done and what you've been saying tonight.
Speaker 1:You totally made my day, man, and it's just you know to see all your friends coming on here and everything as well. You know you've been using your platform supporting the veterans, the children's hospitals, faith-based causes. Why are those so close to your heart?
Speaker 2:The kids were the first thing and you know, being a dad, you know obviously that's important to me, but you know the kids made me understand. There was one girl in particular named Haley Cook, that I think she was on her 36th brain surgery.
Speaker 1:Oh my.
Speaker 2:Lord and I was with her and I got very close to her and her family. I was in the Special Olympics with her. And just my little girlfriend, man, she was just amazing and she's like in her 20s now, so she did survive. But she taught me People would talk to her adults that were facing life-threatening illness or needing surgery.
Speaker 2:And she would just say don't worry, you're going to be okay and you know? It opened my eyes to to um, to see a child that doesn't know how their future is going to be and all of the struggle that they face. But they're still like just that faith, that innocence of a child. And I think adults we curl up in a ball when we face something very, very dangerous or bad or scary. And if you just talk to a child that's in a children's hospital, your whole perspective would change 100%.
Speaker 1:just talk to a child that's in a children's hospital. Your whole perspective would change 100%. I have a moment. Where have you been to St Jude?
Speaker 2:I have never been to St Jude's, believe it or not, and I've been to hospitals all over the US.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were a St Jude radio station, so to speak. We would do the radiothon every year. We did it for like five years and every year they would fly us out to, uh, you know, to go through the briefing. Uh, we'd you know we'd be in Memphis and we stay at the Peabody, whatever. And um, we tour the hospital and to to see and hear these kids, to see and hear the parents to, just, they tell you not to, you know, we're not allowed to talk to anybody, it just they gave us the tour of the hospital and all that. But I remember they gave us the tour and we had our lanyards on.
Speaker 1:I had my name on it where I was from Syracuse, new York and I walked out into the lobby and see this is where it gets me. But I walked out into the lobby and there was a family sitting there on the couch and a little boy and you could tell he was at the hospital for a reason. And he comes up to me. He goes Mr, mr, I go. Yeah, he goes, your name it's, you're from Syracuse, I go. Yes, yes, I, you know, I don't remember what his name was, but he knew my name was Skip and he goes home of the orange, the Syracuse orange basketball football, I go. Yeah, that's right, he goes, goes. Do you mind if I give you a hug?
Speaker 1:so we hugged and Ansel, I just I'm getting, and it was years ago and I still, to this day, not knowing what his outcome was, not knowing you know, I got that's it, right there, what you just said.
Speaker 2:Whenever I would visit children's hospitals and I got very, very close to the children and their families were facing because, honestly, I was there and, just like you were there, we were there to kind of help them forget. They end up impacting us more than we impact them.
Speaker 2:But you know I never, I never knew any of that. I, honestly, I never knew any of the outcomes of any of the children that I visited in those years and I'm I'm kind of happy because I got to be with them in a situation where that didn't matter, right?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, absolutely Wow.
Speaker 2:And that's the magic of, of people that are in media, that are entertainment or sports and and and being with these kids and really not making it about why it's about today, and it's about just being together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the same thing with the veterans, believe it or not, because so many veterans are facing so much PTSD issues and suicidal issues today. And when I, when I wrote our country and and collaborated with Peter Cullen, who's the voice of Optimus Prime and all the transformer franchise, he, he instantly, when he heard the song, he instantly said I want, I'll do this for you, I want to narrate the, the intro, and I was blown away. But it was because he had had a brother. That was, you know, he died from Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam, had cancer, was a major decorated soldier. And when I went to sing that song, to make a video at Richard's Coffee Shop in Mooresville, which is one of the most famous coffee shops in America, it was just on ABCs and ESPN for their Veterans Day special, which I branded, by the way, I branded their big sign. That's on TV was my brand.
Speaker 2:And I did that pro bono, because they're my guys.
Speaker 1:They're my family.
Speaker 2:And I sang that song and I'm telling you guys that you would never, ever see. Cry Guys that their families don't even know their stories because it's that personal. We're sitting in a circle around me and I remember tears after tears, after tears after tears, and the same thing happened on Monday, when I did it for Memorial Day. And the guys. They teach you that the stuff that we're going through is just you can't touch with these men and these kids.
Speaker 2:I know, wow, and when you have that perspective, I have a fib Okay To me. I I fought it differently because of the people that have impacted me and those roles that I've played as an artist, getting out with the people that I care about, and it's been an amazing you know way anybody, that if you don't volunteer at a hospital or at a veteran community area or center or coffee shop or whatever it is you're, you're missing out on something that will absolutely impact your life.
Speaker 2:And these people, the kids and the veterans, are just amazing to me, and I'm, you know, part of me getting back into this now. I will be doing a lot of work with veterans and I will be doing a lot of work with kids.
Speaker 1:That's just going to have.
Speaker 2:That's got to be a part of it.
Speaker 1:You have to promise me that you'll come back on Skip Happens and let's talk about let maybe a few weeks down the road, a couple of months down the road, let's find out what's happening with you, let's find out what you're doing, let's find out because this, this is tremendous. It's powerful. Now, on a brighter note, what's the deal with the hat? Somebody was mentioning the hat, nice hat, this is.
Speaker 2:This is my, this'll be my main, this is my main logo. Love it so it's an, it's an, it's an.
Speaker 1:A, b, a b so see the a oh I'm trying to look at this and I'm backwards.
Speaker 2:No, no, I see what you're saying, though I got a and then b right and so ansel brown and uh, it's my uh it's my you know, my relaunch hat yeah, exactly it's, uh, it's. It's near and dear to my heart so I know the hat I'm wearing.
Speaker 1:As you can see, it says grateful. I love it. Now, do you know what that's about? He's an artist. His name is Scotty Hastings. Okay, I had him on the podcast here a while ago. It's all about being grateful and it's funny because this whole conversation that we've been talking about it and you're talking about the veterans I love that. He was in Afghanistan. He was shot 10 times.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Was not expected to survive. They flew him out. He is now. Of course he's been home quite a while, but still he's an artist in Nashville. His name is Scotty Hastings. He's doing really well and at CRS this past year I grabbed a hat.
Speaker 2:I would love to meet him at some point. I kind of figured you would. I think we would connect like that.
Speaker 1:I think you would, and I think it would be a perfect match Just with everything that you do and everything I know that Scotty does. He was on my podcast a few weeks ago, but it's funny because when he came on he had the Gr hat on. I had the grateful hat.
Speaker 2:I love that I really do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's the story behind that being shot 10 times. United States army took 10 bullets and he survived again.
Speaker 2:So think about that, think about that he's not alone. And these people, these people are some of the you know they're, they're, they're heroes, for a reason man. And, um, it's, it's, they're, they're amazing to me, I think any anybody that you talk to at Richard's knows how much I care about them. And, uh, you, in fact, if you come up here, you need to visit Richard's coffee shop.
Speaker 1:Oh, dude I, you know when we get done here, I'm going to get your info and you know whether I don't know if I can do it next week, because it's a quick turnaround for me. I have to go and I'm actually.
Speaker 2:DJing the wedding. That's cool though.
Speaker 1:So it's my nephew Sally's like hey, Uncle Skip, will you do it? I just work in radio. I mean, dude, come on, but anyways I'm going to do it for him and then I'm flying back on Saturday afternoon or maybe even Saturday morning we meet up, but anyways, we can talk about that later.
Speaker 2:I would love that I see that Tracy's reminding me about One Wish.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, I was going to ask you If you get a chance you should look up.
Speaker 2:Just type in One Wish Ansel Brown on YouTube and you'll see. It's with the Carolina Panthers, with their help.
Speaker 2:But it was the initial part of my children's hospital tour, and you'll actually see a girl that the nurses said would never smile and don't expect to smile. She's in too much pain, she, uh, she can't smile basically. And by the time I got done, there's a video of her and you see her just the lights flashing. You see her this huge smile, literally. At that moment the entire staff of the hospital was shedding tears because they witnessed what they felt was a miracle. It was one of the most incredible moments of my hospital work. Uh, but it's in that. One wish. Uh, I wrote a song called one wish and it's about a girl named Hope Stout who, uh, passed away back in the. Do you remember when the Panthers went to the first, their first Superbowl against England, yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that that run, that the Panthers went on. They were behind this little girl named Hope Stout for make a wish, because there was not enough money in the Charlotte make a wish, uh, area to grant wishes. So what did she wish? She wished that everybody in Charlotte would get their wishes. So that was her wish. And then she passed away. And guess what? They raised them enough money through the Panthers help to get everybody in Charlotte their wish. So I inspired a song called one wish. You know what would you do if you had one wish? What would you do with it?
Speaker 1:Would you use it on yourself, or would you find a?
Speaker 2:way to use it on someone else, dude. So it's an incredibly strong message in that song and, uh, if you watch that video, you'll see what I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It'll speak to you it's an incredible message of everything you you've said here on this podcast. Um, I know we're. We're close a little over an hour so I almost feel like I could go on all night with you.
Speaker 2:But you know what? You're fun to talk to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right back at you your music. Incredible, good to have you back and definitely going to be I'm going to be getting this. What I normally do is every well, every once in a while, like this interview, I'll play the song. I'll play the song, I'll play the song and I will take clips from this interview and I will play it on the air, saying if you don't know who this guy is, well, this is who he is and this is what he told me. So there's little clips.
Speaker 2:That's what I do, but uh well, I, I will definitely appreciate your support and, um, and you know people need to, I, I need to get people to find out about me somehow. Oh, absolutely, well, you know what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're off and running. We're going to help everywhere we can and I love what you're doing. Thank you, and I know Deanna is asking what was Scotty? Scotty, oh all right, tracy mentioned it. Scotty Hastings, that is the artist.
Speaker 2:Look him up. That is the artist. Look them up.
Speaker 1:Um, normally I don't talk about other artists when I'm interviewing an artist with that man, but uh, it just it kind of went together with what you were saying and I'm looking, I go, I'm wearing scotty's hat that says grateful and there's a reason for that he's grateful I'm a fan of anybody that gets out and does what they're meant to do?
Speaker 1:yep yep, the bottom line. Yep, you know so. Know so if viewers other viewers besides family and friends that don't know where to get your music where can they go? Ansel browncom to start and we've got a new website up, not the other, it's Ansel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a N S E L browncom. Not Ansel Adams, and right, or you can find me on any streaming platform. Just got to search Ansel Brown.
Speaker 1:I love that. I love that. Make sure you go on all the support.
Speaker 2:I can get on Spotify, by the way, so let's go, let's build it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you're on.
Speaker 2:Spotify. Go ahead and play my, play my music. That would be great.
Speaker 1:And once I get my hands on the song, I will post it below this video, which is on all my it's on my youtube, it's on my social, it's, uh, just all my everywhere you rock, man. I appreciate that. Yeah, ansel brown. God love you, man, you're so thank you, I feel the same sir. Yeah, and I told you, by the time we get done with this podcast, we need to go have a beer.
Speaker 2:Yes, I really wish we could, man, I know. So just make sure I know when you're going to be here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll get your info here in just a minute or two, but I want to thank you for coming on. Thank you to all the viewers. Make sure you go on and subscribe to Skip Happens. We do a lot of these. I do a couple a week. I'd love to keep in touch with every one of you, and this is what we do. Just subscribe Skip Happens on YouTube.
Speaker 2:Definitely subscribe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not just. You know, it's a real deal. I have my own podcast studio, I've got a voiceover studio, I've got a vocal booth.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I took over the baseball players. You're living the dream man. You're doing what you're supposed to be doing. I know this is my world.
Speaker 1:I know it is. This is my world and that's your world. I love it All right, ansel Brown, thank you. Thank you so much for being on, skip Happens tonight.
Speaker 2:It is a pleasure, absolute pleasure. Thank you for going through some of my experiences with me.
Speaker 1:It was great to talk to.
