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From Ranch Life To National TV: Olivia Harms’ Country Journey

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SPEAKER_00:

Hello, everybody, and welcome to another edition of Skip Happens. My name is Ski Clark, of course, and your host, and welcome to a special uh pop-up episode of Skip Happens. Every now and then we get the chance to sit down with someone whose story is built on grit, heart, and uh Western spirit. You're gonna love this. Uh, country music was founded on all of that, and tonight is one of those nights. Our guest has competed, correct me if I'm wrong, on national television. She's been honored by Cowgirl magazine. She has carried the traditions of Western life into every single song that she sits down and writes. And uh her journey is full of challenges, victories, and a whole lot of fame. And her music reflects all of it. She's the real deal. And uh, we're gonna get right into it. Uh, please welcome singer, songwriter, Olivia Harms to the Skip Happens Podcast. Olivia, it's so good to have you here tonight. How are you?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, I'm good. Skip, thank you so much for having me. This is gonna be so fun.

SPEAKER_00:

We're gonna have a we're gonna have a good time. First of all, right off the top, where are you?

SPEAKER_01:

I am actually in my home. I just got home uh just a couple days ago, but I'm in northern California.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, holy crap!

SPEAKER_01:

I know, I'm like worlds away from you.

SPEAKER_00:

You're like, what's that, three hours? So it's I think so.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's only five here.

SPEAKER_00:

We got all night ahead of us, and we're on the east coast, so it's eight o'clock here.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Now I get I thought, oh, maybe she's in Nashville, maybe she's in Texas, you know, one or two hours behind. I had no idea that you were actually in California.

SPEAKER_01:

So I know I'm a West Coast girl, man. And uh, even though I do love my Nashville and I love my Texas, I'm a West Coast girl.

SPEAKER_00:

There you go. Well, when you say West Coast, what's the name of the town? Where are you?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, we are in a tiny town. So uh I moved to California because of my husband. I got myself a California cowboy, and our town is called Vina. I'm sure you never heard of it because it's about 175 people. Uh it's small, it's small. There's way more cows than there are people in our town, Skip.

SPEAKER_00:

So that Olivia, let me ask you this before we get into the heart of this whole podcast here. If I was to, you know, to drive into your town, what's the first thing I'm gonna see? Is there uh even a Chick-fil-A or is there a Buckeys or anything?

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't no Chick-fil-A, but you know, like any good cowboy small town, we do have a steakhouse. Okay. Uh, and so we could get you a good steak, and then um to another one of my favorite things, we have a winery. So we've got a steakhouse, a winery, and then a little convenience shop and a post office, and that pretty much sums up our town. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_00:

That's all you need. Well, I mean, you gotta have a little uh you gotta have a grocery store.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we get the convenience. I wouldn't say that if you need anything other than maybe like the limited essentials, I think then you should probably try to drive into like Chico or or Red Bluff, and those are each like 20-30 minutes away.

SPEAKER_00:

I was gonna ask which way, probably in each direction, depending on what you feel like doing.

SPEAKER_01:

That's right, wherever you want to point the rig.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, for anyone discovering you uh for the first time, how would you describe who Olivia Harms is?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, you know, I grew up on a ranch in Oregon, so that's where I'm originally from. The ranch has been in my family since 1872, so 150 years. So all my ancestors, you know, everybody that I grew up with, we all have uh this deep ranching in our veins because it's what we've done forever cow, calf, beef, cattle, you know, we make the steaks. And uh I grew up like that. My mom is a wonderful musician, so I grew up with like the ranching and the music, and then no wonder I turned into a country western musician myself. So I think you take all of that and you mix it with the fact that I lived in Nashville for three years. I pursued songwriting and the music business in Nashville, and COVID shut me down there, so I went back to the ranch, and then I got tired of sitting in Oregon because love the West Coast, but they weren't the first to recoup after COVID and open their doors. So then I said, Well, heck with that, I'll go down to Texas, and so then I lived in Fort Worth, Texas for uh four or five years. Yep, big town, big town. They love real honky tonk music there. Um, and then you know, now I'm in California, so you mix the honky tonk, the cowboys, a little bit of like the West Coast Bakersfield and Nashville together, and you get Olivia Harms.

SPEAKER_00:

So, where did you meet your uh California cowboy?

SPEAKER_01:

I met him at a music festival. You know, where else does the musician meet her husband?

SPEAKER_00:

I guess I I mean, does he have anything to do with your band or his anything like that? No, not at all.

SPEAKER_01:

He is he's as man as they come. He's uh he's a cowboy himself, so we have uh a ranching operation here in Northern California, and then he has a welding business, so he builds flatbeds and bumpers, and yep, he's all boy.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that. So your mom is that is it Joni? Joni, Joni, and she's in the country music hall of fame. She is how cool is that?

SPEAKER_01:

It's so cool. I mean, I'm really lucky to have had her, she's been such an inspiration, and a lot of times people will say, Well, how was that? Well, did you feel a lot of pressure with having a very successful musical mama, or did she push you into it, or you know, I'll get questions like that, and it's it's totally the opposite. I've been so fortunate to have her and have like a sounding board whenever I have new music or need advice, or even when I've been going through things in my career, whether they're good or bad, she really knows exactly what I'm going through because she'd been there.

SPEAKER_00:

And how that it's gonna make it so easy, you know what I mean? Just to have somebody to fall back on like that, that can at least maybe point you in the right direction or give you some good advice, especially absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, she's not only my mom, she's like, you know, the greatest advice, like you say. Because if you're saying, Mom, what am I gonna do? Am I gonna where do I choose to to invest my money next since I'm an independent artist? Or or what do I do, you know, with this song? Maybe I I feel like it needs to go somewhere. She really gets it, she truly does because she's lived it.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely. Um, Olivia, when was the moment that you knew music wasn't just something you loved, but something you had to go after?

SPEAKER_01:

You know, I wish I had a great memory of that because my very first show was actually two days old. Uh, my mom was playing at the Portland Speedway, and she was supposed to share the stage with Clint Black, Ricky Skags, Laurie Morgan, all these great country music artists. And uh, she was due with me, and I hadn't arrived yet. So she goes into her doctor, who's luckily a country music fan, and she said, Look, doc, I gotta have this kid so I don't miss the gig. And sure enough, that's what he said, all right, you come in, we'll induce labor. You get the kid on the ground, and my two days later. Yeah, two days later. She's like, Look what I did the other day. So that's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I wish I had like a distinct memory of knowing that this is what I was put on earth to do, but I really just grew up around it. I went on the road with her. I remember singing I Wanna Be a Cowboy Sweetheart, probably at like three or four years old. I just loved it. And I always like saw how happy she was able to make people and have people say, Joni, my one of my family members just passed and sing you here tonight or this song that you wrote, you've helped me through such a hard time, and you know, see them just connect with music and it brings them joy. And I thought, boy, the world's a hard enough place as it is. If I can make someone happy, then I'll that's what I want to do.

SPEAKER_00:

There you go. And I mean, do you have pictures of uh does your mom have like a photo album and and there she is holding you on stage? And look, say, look what popped out of me two days ago, and here I am on the stage.

SPEAKER_01:

Straight out of the shoot, yeah. She does. She's she's like, Yeah, you were you didn't have a choice, you just wrong with me.

SPEAKER_00:

So awesome. I didn't know that. That is so cool.

SPEAKER_01:

She's she's a tough cookie, if you will. I love it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you um do you get back to Nashville very often?

SPEAKER_01:

I do. I try to spend a lot of time there. You know, it's been a little bit sparse over the last couple years, but in 2025, I've been able to spend a bunch of time there. I've already got a trip planned for 2026 in January. Um, so there's there's still a lot of things that I go to Nashville for. Some of the best songwriters are there, the best recording producers, all of that, and that's really where the industry is. So, you know, I've never had the mindset that I don't want to be involved in Nashville. It's just you got to get there, and my life hasn't allowed to be a good idea.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I totally get it. I totally get that.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Have you been to CRS at all? The country radio seminar. See, that's in March.

SPEAKER_01:

I know. I it's on my bucket list. So I've really should go.

SPEAKER_00:

But uh, you know, you you're already a step ahead from uh a lot of others. Of course, you've been doing this for a little bit as well, but uh definitely it would be to your advantage to go.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, it's on my bucket list. I'd I'd love to go, so maybe I'll have to make that happen this year.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, tell me about uh the television, uh national TV. That that's that's a massive stage. And uh crazy. What was going through your head the very first time you stepped on that?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh I couldn't I couldn't believe it was real, you know, like it was such a shock, anyways. Uh, I did an audition for it. I didn't know that the show was even a thing. So then to basically get a cold call from Taylor Sheridan is what happened to me and say, Do you think you'd be interested in a show I'm putting together with Blake Shelton? I'd like to get you in touch with my casting producers. And so one thing led to another. And sure, then you know I'm on this stage with 11 amazing country musicians and opening for Keith Urban. And I mean, just pinching myself really and counting my blessings that I somehow was able to get recruited and cast because, like I said, it wasn't an audition process. They sought out 12 out of the United States and said, We think you're all right. You want to come be on the show? I know.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Like, I don't know. I'm eventually gonna wake up from this dream and realize you don't want to wake up.

SPEAKER_00:

No, you're not gonna wake up. Just keep it going, baby. You know, um, has television uh did it teach you any lessons about uh, you know, the rest of the industry can't, you know, TV does certain things, and being on that side of it, has that taught you any lessons?

SPEAKER_01:

You know, I think that I was very authentic the whole time that I I was on TV or, you know, while they were filming, and that was my biggest goal was to just be totally authentic and who I am, and you know, unapologetically so. And so I think the best thing I learned from it is that I'm glad I did that. I'm glad and I think I need to do more of that because I think watching it back, watching what the producers and you know the film crew were able to capture. I think some of the moments that that fans have connected to the most have been the ones where I kind of was like, oh, I can't believe I said that, or oh, that, you know, that might have been a little bit um just too real because sometimes in this industry you feel like you need to put on a show or you know, just be put together or be the entertainer all the time and maybe not show weakness or you know, the the parts of us that are a little quirky. And uh it was really neat to see that I think people relate to real, authentic, you know, not not always put together, not TV ready more than than we imagine.

SPEAKER_00:

This is a skip happens and it happens. So it totally does the more real that you can be, the more people are gonna love it, and they're gonna get just like me. She's just well, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01:

I think I think the best thing that I ended up saying on TV was uh, you know, Blake Shalton was asking me about ranching, and I said, Yes, I I still do, you know, production egg, and you know, we still raise beef cattle. And then he said, Do you work the cows or do you just live there? And I said, No, I work, and you know, when we do brandings or we're processing or whatever, I usually have a job and most of the time I'm on the vaccine gun. Um, but once in a while they do put me to work and I have done other things, and you know, I got to talking and eventually it slipped out that I said, I do know how to castrate. And of course, that's what they chose to put on national TV. The first clip of Olivia being like, I can castorate if you need me to.

SPEAKER_00:

But but you know what? That that'll get everybody's attention, and that's what you want, that's what it's about.

SPEAKER_01:

That's right, that's right. If that doesn't get attention, then boy, I don't know what would you know.

SPEAKER_00:

It's kind of led into what I was gonna ask, which kind of explained it right there, that you know, when people watch that on TV, for the for the most part, uh they're getting a polished version. But uh, this is like, yeah, that went on TV. But there's a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that people uh would never believe.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, there's there's definitely parts of you know the process where they they filmed it and then no one ever gets to see it. Uh, like our our first performance, there was uh we each did a cover song, and that got totally cut out of you know the finished product. Nobody saw the the first episode cover songs. Um, there was also some like gatherings and just little things. I know that they get a lack of time that they can, you know, crank out. If you get 90 minutes, you got to be really careful what you put in the 90 minutes, and something's gonna have to go. But it was interesting to see what they they picked from all the footage that they got.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow. Interesting. Yeah, it's it's crazy. Why did why do you think? Oh, they must have cut that out because of time.

SPEAKER_01:

I think so. I think that they just said, you know, you each did two songs, they started with 12. Um, so that's 24 songs, and each song was really like put down into a condensed version. Uh, I think we were only on stage opening for keys maybe three minutes because each song, our original and our cover had been condensed to a minute 30 each. So that's about three minutes, and then you have 12 entertainers. So I mean, that's still even though the songs are shortened, it's still a pretty lengthy bit of time.

SPEAKER_00:

So you're working on the ranch, and you have working on the ranch. And you have the cattle. Are they you did you say they were beef cattle?

SPEAKER_01:

Beef cattle.

unknown:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you ever get attached to some of the cattle? I mean, the little ones they're they're so adorable.

SPEAKER_01:

They are pretty adorable. I I got attached when whenever we have like bottle calves or leppy calves, we'll call them sometimes, you know, the ones where their moms don't want them or something awful happens, and then it's on you to bottle feed them and be the mama. And those are pretty cute when they get excited to see you every day. And those ones are really hard to let go of. So you always hope that it's a heifer or you know, a girl so that then you can, you know, it has a purpose going forward. Sometimes you can't always keep the the boys, but um, you know, with it it is hard. I think you just try really hard not to think about it and then know like you know your big part in the world, feeding the world, and try to focus focus on the pot to be around on shipping day most of the time. Okay, I'll go around air friends in town or something.

SPEAKER_00:

I wouldn't want to be there. It's just uh you know, I love animals. And even even even with the cattle, you know, we know it's a way of life and the beef cattle, and I'm a steak eater. I totally get that, but uh I I don't know, I still find it hard. Still find it hard.

SPEAKER_01:

It is hard. It is good to see where the come from, though. I think that's a really ridiculous is when you look out there and you see that they have like humane, perfect life. They're happy out there, they're happy, all those things coming into your body is a happy, healthy if if we didn't browse and we wouldn't have steak. So it's kind of reassuring to be like this is how it was meant to be. They have a really good life, and and then we get something good to eat at dinner time.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Any horses?

SPEAKER_01:

We do have a couple horses, yes. And you know, that's that's always so fun. We have a couple horses, we have three cow dogs between the the two of us, my husband and I. Uh, I came with two cow dogs, and he came with one, and so now we're a blended family, and I have to go like three miles a day to to just to keep these dogs worn out because they're such high-energy creatures, but yeah, but we've got it.

SPEAKER_00:

You call them. I mean, I know we're off the music. I told you we'd go down a road. Um I love it, and but we're off the subject of the music for just a few minutes. But uh, cow dogs? What cow dogs, so yeah, are is that their breed? They're called cow dogs.

SPEAKER_01:

They all the we have three different breeds, but they're all of like the cow dog variety. So we have one red border collie, uh, and then I have uh a blue healer Australian shepherd cross. Oh wow, and then I've got a uh border collie catahula cross. So they're all really good for for herding cows and moving cows, uh, but they all have a little something different in them.

SPEAKER_00:

What are their names?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh mine are Luna and Elmer, and then my husband brought in Sam. So Sam. So now we've got Luna, Elmer, and Sam. Sam. Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Sam. I did a thing on air today. I was talking about the I think it was the top 10 pet names uh for dogs. I mean, Ariba and Whalen and uh Nashville was on there. I mean names like that. Yeah, I thought that was interesting. That's why I asked you, you know, what their names were. I was just kind of curious.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you hear some really unique ones. And then there's you know, there's lots of buddies, and I mean, you know, all those ones that are so common, but but tell me about oh, I'm sorry. No, no, we have a good time with them.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome. Tell me, tell me about uh, you know, when you were recognized by Cowgirl magazine, uh that's a huge, big time nod to who you are in the Western culture. Yeah. And what did that uh honor mean to you?

SPEAKER_01:

I I got uh no uh notified was gonna be last, I think, up to 2021 to 22. So this is a couple years back, and it's incredible because they hosted it in the bank ceremony. Uh they had it as a drover, so that there's folks familiar whoever is the pretty movie hotel, and you just feel like amazing to be 29 women who are really movers and shakers in the Western area that are really making things happen. You have a musician, uh to the female veterinarians, females that are in markets, uh, that are you know in the Houston rodeo, you have all sorts of um agricultural cultural farmers from the Middle East that are doing that. And uh really, really neat to see the the the diversity and then be able to meet all these new sisters and and have throughout the cowgirl industry for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you know, cowgirl a magazine, of course, a type of magazine that definitely celebrates strong, authentic women. Um who in that world inspires you, by the way?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, there's there's so many. Yeah, it is a tough question because there's so many. You know, the the instinct answer is my mom. Uh but a second one for me is uh my hat sponsor. Her name is Shorty, and she's in the Cowgirl Hall of Fame, which is you know next level because they're they're just uh Cowgirl 30 under 30 on steroids. You look at those women and you're like, wow, they have really made a difference in the world. And uh she started out making hats in Oklahoma and really just kind of started with nothing. She bought a hat shop from an old guy and just a little tiny small town, and now she makes the best hats in the world and they're highly sought after. And all of the the big horse people want to have one of hers. And so to see what she's made out of herself is something that I really strive to to do.

SPEAKER_00:

I got it. What was um off the top of my head? I'm just thinking of a certain question here. Um what was the very first song you ever you ever wrote?

SPEAKER_01:

First song I ever wrote. Uh, it was probably about my hometown. I remember coming home from school, and you know, I knew ever since I was a little kid that I this is what I wanted to do. And I thought I'm gonna have to have a song about where I'm from because if people are gonna be kind enough to listen to me, they probably want to know what my story is or want to know who the heck is Olivia Harms. So I'm lucky, not you can't do this with every small town, but can be organ, uh, you can kind of turn that into a hook and say you can be whatever you want to be, and can be, you know, that was my my little idea from my early songwriting brain. And I went up and I worked on it a couple days after school and you know, kind of thought I had maybe made a good song. And I remember going downstairs to my mom's office and knocking on the door and saying, Would you happen to have a couple minutes to listen to this new song I wrote? And of course, she sits down and is all excited, and I get through it. And uh she just I was nervous, right? I was like, here's my mom, she's so good, and she's gonna have some sort of critique or or advice on what I should change. And instead, I got to the end and she just said, That's a really good hook. I wish I would have thought of that myself.

SPEAKER_00:

That that that's you know, it's in the family. You were your brain was already in that mode. How old? Can I ask approximately how old were you?

SPEAKER_01:

I think I was 10, 10 or 11.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, all right. Do you still play that song?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, I still have people that come up and request it, and it just tickles me because they'll be like, Do you still play that Cambi song? Uh yeah, I'm you know, still proud to be have Cambi be my hometown. So oh my god, I love that.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that. You know, I talk to a lot of artists, and when I ask that question, they'll go, Oh, yeah, yeah, I wrote this song, and I'll go, Do you remember it? And they'll go, Yeah, but I don't want to, you know, or they're like, It was so bad. But that's yeah, you know, but wow, that that's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

You definitely progress, you know, you should, right? Like you shouldn't just be stagnant in your songwriting. So now that I'm have been in it for over 15, 20 years, I guess. Oh, yeah. Um, I'm glad that I've gotten a little bit better. But for a first song, I don't, I still not too bad. It's got all the little pieces and parts, and it's catchy. People sing along, so it can't be that bad if it's catchy.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, what would be your latest project right now?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I've been doing uh a ton of writing this fall. You know, it's been really good to get back into it and just feel re-inspired after, you know, the show and being a part of the road. And so I've got quite a few new songs that I'm taking to Nashville in 2026 and putting together my third album, which is crazy to think about, but very exciting. Um, so you know, definitely some great new tunes. The most recent one I finished uh was kind of like uh a reinvented Ghostwriters in the Sky. I used to love that song. Oh, yeah. And uh, you know, there's not another one like it. I felt like it needed another chapter or like a uh, you know, a story from the woman's point of view that maybe dated one of the ghostwriters. And and so that's what we've been working on.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that. So what I've seen and heard, your songwriting is both uh personal and cinematic. What inspires your writing these days?

SPEAKER_01:

It all has to come from uh at least a little bit of a true story or a true place, whether I'm taking it from one of my friends or you know, something that I've seen while I've been traveling or a real experience. And uh, like for one of my songs, example is Hey There Cowboy. I used to take a bunch of my girlfriends with me when I'd go play at the beer gardens after rodeos and they'd go wander around and have fun, and I'd be up there with the band working, and and then I'd get done and they'd come over and they'd say, Oh my gosh, we've heard some of just the most ridiculous pickup lines tonight, and you wouldn't believe it. And I would always say, Yeah, these guys, they gotta learn. That's not that's not working so well for them. How did it did it hurt when you fell? No.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh so finally I was just cruising through Nashville and uh I was like on the end of a really long riding day, and I was just thinking, I better, you know, just play around with this idea about what would I say or what would my friends and I say if a boy came up to us and hey there, cowboy, what's your name? You know, I'm not into playing any games. And so I took a little video of it and sent it to my girlfriends and was like, ah, here's a joke for you, and you know, listen to this one. And they said, You gotta finish that, Liv. Like you, you have to finish it. And so I'm really, I'm really thankful that uh I went on and took their advice because that song's done pretty good for me.

SPEAKER_00:

I was listening to that just a just a little bit ago. I was just looking on my phone here to see if I still had it up, but I didn't have it up. I was gonna play a little uh little clip of it. So, but uh definitely good stuff. That was like uh I think the video was five years ago.

SPEAKER_01:

I know, yeah. Time flies, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Time does crazy. Time does fly.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, and then sometimes trying to juggle everything as an independent artist, you know, it does get to be tricky, and that's why I've been really excited to get back into songwriting just this last fall. Uh, because you get so busy with trying to stay up on social media, you get busy with trying to book your own gigs, be the planner, be the manager, you know, make sure you have merch, yeah, be all the things. And then before you know it, you're out of time and you're trying to figure out what you should do next.

SPEAKER_00:

All that being said, though, are you very happy being an independent artist? Because if you weren't, you weren't independent and you were signed with a major label, you'd have other people doing a lot of that for you. But then again, there's a lot of uh financial responsibilities that come with that, that it's not cheap.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah. You know, I think I'm I'm so blessed that I've been able to do something for a living that I love so much and I'm able to make a very good living at it. Um, but I wouldn't be upset to to let go of the reins a little bit one day and have somebody help me out if it was the right match and if I found the right, you know, the right label or somebody that really got the kind of music that I make and they were willing to help me. Uh, I would be really happy to maybe just let go of a little bit, let somebody else do most of the booking and stress about that, maybe have somebody else with a little bit of, you know, label with some funding so I could make more music and put it out quicker and get to radio stations. Because even just to promote a single uh in Texas as an independent artist, it's usually about four to five grand a cut, and that's just independently.

SPEAKER_00:

So a lot of people don't realize that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

No, and I mean the single runs for I mean, maybe 30 weeks if you're lucky, and then then you're gonna have to do another one. So, and then you gotta stay up with the the recording, and usually each time that you record a side, that's at least four to five grand again per single. If you want to get it recorded properly and sound good, and so it's just kind of like this never-ending amount of where do you put your money and what should you invest it in?

SPEAKER_00:

Who do you trust for sure? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01:

So, and nobody is gonna work as hard as you. That's the one thing I've learned.

SPEAKER_00:

It's kind of where I was going because that would be the you know, it'll it has to be you.

SPEAKER_01:

It does, you have to be, yeah, whether you like it or not. I know I had to it is, but it's worth it if you get to, you know, have success and every little nugget that you you kind of latch on to, and you say, Wow, all of this hard work that I've put in. Uh, and I guess it was worth it because I I got to this level, and then you look ahead and you say, Wow, I gotta get up here.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but you're getting there, you're going.

SPEAKER_01:

That's right. Step by step. That's right.

SPEAKER_00:

Step by step, one fan at a time. You just keep keep building that, baby. Just keep doing that. That's right.

SPEAKER_01:

You just keep going.

SPEAKER_00:

I've been watching it and I've been in radio for quite a while, and I see a lot of artists like you. Um, you know, and I see that. And I always say it's it's one fan at a time. It's it's just a step at a time. Don't try to do too much too quick, you know. Just build it. You've been doing it for a while. I get that. But and you also got the background, you get the family background, which is all pretty cool. A lot of people do not, uh, but uh, you know, you're very lucky with that. And of course, knowing your mom and who she is, that's that's pretty awesome. That's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

So, you know, it's not been a bad life so far, so I can't complain. We hope to get up here, but it's been pretty good so far.

SPEAKER_00:

I get it. Well, uh so in California, what's the weather like right now?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it was kind of chilly today. We had a lot of fog. I took the dogs on my you know three mile adventure like I do every day, and uh it was kind of chilly, and we had to put the coat on, and you know, but it was all right, all right.

SPEAKER_00:

Hold on, Olivia. When you say chilly, what do you mean by temperature?

SPEAKER_01:

I think with like the fog and the moisture in the air, I think it was around like 45.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah. All right, never mind. I thought it was like a little bit warmer because that's basically what it was here in the northeast today. But we're talking, but we're talking about snow right after Thanksgiving, and we're talking anywhere from three inches to a couple feet, depending on where you are.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, are you ready for that?

SPEAKER_00:

I've lived here all my life.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it gets old news. I don't even know what to do.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know if you know this or not, but we have what they call lake effect. Lake effect, yeah, it's where the cold air blows across the lake, and in my neck of the woods, it's Lake Ontario. So when the uh the cold air comes across the warmer waters, it just it snows, and we'll get a foot of snow in one night. And I'll still hear the school buses going by in the morning. I mean, we you know, we're we've got the equipment around here to handle it, the men and women that go out and do what they gotta do, and you know, other places like Nashville, for example, they get a dusting of snow, it's closed.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, isn't that so true? Even in Oregon, a lot of places, yeah, yeah, they'll just panic out and say we're done.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, or Oregon, Oregon or Oregon, or Oregon, like what you got in your body, Oregon. Oregon, Oregon, where you from, Oregon.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, how about um what's the other ones that always gets folks? Uh salmon.

SPEAKER_00:

Salmon. The salmon. We have the salmon river.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so you guys got it. I've heard salmon a lot of times.

SPEAKER_00:

Salmon.

SPEAKER_01:

Salmon. And that one always gives you a little bit of a I get it.

SPEAKER_00:

I get it. No, I guess you know, we say Syracuse because obviously that's where I am in Syracuse.

SPEAKER_01:

Syracuse.

SPEAKER_00:

That that was good. That was good.

SPEAKER_01:

I have been told that I have like a mix of, I don't know if it's an organ thing, but I have been told I have a mix of like up north and then. Like southern accent, and I don't know how that works together or where it comes from, but I that's what I've been told.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it sounds pretty good. I I don't hear the southern accent, maybe a little bit, very, very little.

SPEAKER_01:

But uh maybe it depends on what region I'm in and how different they think I am.

SPEAKER_00:

It could be, right? Tell me, uh, tell me a little bit about your band. Are they still what the Roadrunners?

SPEAKER_01:

The Roadrunners.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. So this is the same bunch of guys that you play with right along.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, yeah, I've been with the Roadrunners for a while, and I got so lucky and so fortunate to find them. Uh, you'll have to listen to this. This is I found two brothers, and one of them plays fiddle and one of them plays steel guitar. So two of the most, you know, unique instruments, and they both play, and they're both extremely talented, and they're good boys. Uh, I'm not rolling them out of bed at eight in the morning when we're hitting the road to the next place. They they stay clean, they're good boys, and we all look out for each other, and and so I'm really lucky. Um, they'll they'll go with me to Vegas, and that's that's our next little run.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, you're doing the Vegas run.

SPEAKER_01:

We are all right.

SPEAKER_00:

Where we're about to go. Are you gonna see any shows while you're there? For example, are you gonna go to the sphere?

SPEAKER_01:

And uh we don't know. I've heard about the sphere. I don't know if I'm gonna have time to go, but I have seen it looks incredible.

SPEAKER_00:

From what I've seen, it looks incredible.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. We're going for uh the National Finals rodeo.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, mention the rodeo.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean, lots of folks know what it is, but just in case there's some listeners that don't know, it's like the Super Bowl of rodeo, and it happens for 10 nights, and that's where uh the top 15 from each event, you know, bull bull riding, steer wrestling, barrel racing, all of it, the top 15 from all year long, they compete for the number one spot in each event.

SPEAKER_00:

And uh, or are you going are you a big fan as well as will you be performing?

SPEAKER_01:

Both. So I am a big, I'm a big rodeo girl that goes hand in hand with you know ranching and rodeo, cowgirl stuff. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it doesn't take a scientist to figure that one out, but uh I also am playing. I'm playing a couple nights at the Westgate Hotel and Casino, which is where they have a lot of watch parties that they'll call them as you know, not everybody can go to the Thomas and Mac and and get their tickets to watch live every night, but they do a lot of watch parties and live streams. So I'm playing at that. Um playing at a big event for Montana Silversmiths, uh playing at like a pre-party at Thomas and Mac. So there's all sorts of stuff going on.

SPEAKER_00:

Just going on nonstop, back to back to back. I know are you driving because it's not it's really not a bad drive from California today.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it wouldn't be a terrible drive, but I think it would still probably take about eight or nine hours from where we're at. And so I think since my husband's gonna come with me, and you know, we're gonna I can put a bunch of my stuff in his bag, I'm sure he'll love that. We'll fly down and it'll it'll be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00:

You got the backpack, you got the two suitcases.

SPEAKER_01:

That's exactly right, I know how that goes. You must know how that is.

SPEAKER_00:

I know exactly how that is. I can fit, I can stay for a week uh and live out of my backpack as long as I have underwear, socks, a couple pairs of jeans, some t-shirts, I'm good to go. My deodorant, my toothbrush, I'm good. I'm good.

SPEAKER_01:

You're good.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what I mean? I'm good.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, my wife, on the other hand, you know, four or five pairs of shoes to say the least, the makeup bag alone. Right, you got, you know, I can go on and on and on.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, well, she sounds like she's got it figured out. We'd be pressed.

SPEAKER_00:

She does. She does. She's a good, she's a good woman. She's got it all figured out. Um, let's talk about uh, you know, you've talked openly about your faith and about staying grounded. How has your faith guided you through moments in this industry? And especially you as an independent, and you know it's tough. You were telling me how tough it can be, but how has that guided you?

SPEAKER_01:

You know, I think especially in either time, lows or highs, because this industry, as rewarding as it can be, it really is, is filled with lots of mountains and lots of valleys. Where as soon as you get up here and you know, maybe you get a call that you're gonna be on the road. Like as soon as I got that call, uh, that they were even remotely interested in me, I remember I went to my knees and I was just thanking the Lord that, you know, if I got this opportunity that I would try to shine his light and do him proud and let other people know how wonderful he is. And uh then you get through it, and then you have to wait and you have to sign the NDA, or you know, I got sent home. And I, of course, because I'm a dream chaser, wanted to stay on the show longer. And you wonder, like, why didn't it happen? How come I didn't, how come, you know, I got all built up down here, and then it was time to get sent home. And and you know, I think your faith really does help you get through those things because you know in your heart and you can trust in God that He's got a bigger plan for you. And if something doesn't work out, then He's got something better in the future. And that has happened to me so many times where I'll say, Why didn't this come to fruition? And then, you know, just down the pipe a little ways after you've kind of been upset or sad or bummed or whatever your emotion was that one thing didn't work out, you really see in God's time that what he had planned was way better than what you could have ever imagined.

SPEAKER_00:

It kind of uh the question I was gonna ask, and you just kind of answered it, was uh, you know, when there was was there a time, was there a time that when you thought maybe this isn't going to work? And then faith family fans kept you going. I know you're just talking about faith, you know, what you believe in, and you know he's there, and if that didn't work, something else is going to work. I mean, that's the whole reason.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely, yeah. I mean, there's there's been many times, especially in music business. I think anytime that you go off the beaten path and you pursue a career that isn't maybe uh normal in today's society, I don't think it's just music. I think there's lots of people that could relate to this. Um, you know, it's it's just harder. I'm responsible for my my income. There's nobody out there that is gonna pay me from nine to five because I show up. Like I've had months where when I was living in Texas, the electric bill is crazy because they don't have well insulation there, and you're trying to stay warm, and then next thing you know, you're saying, Holy cow, how am I gonna afford this bill? And you're trying to piece together some work because you know, sometimes there's slow months in music, not everybody's willing to go out, and and it always comes through, but I I think that you know, anybody that's self-employed or struggling with that, you really have to have faith because it would be really difficult to just trust that what you're doing is is the right thing if you if you didn't like have God to consult that with. And I've so many times been like, is this what you want me to do? I feel like it is. I feel like, you know, whenever I pray that, then a couple of days later or a week or two later, someone will come up to me and they'll just say, Thank you. You you really made my evening, or you there you go, you know, save me. And that's all you really need to then just keep on going.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. It's gonna, you know, they'll say, Yeah, you're doing the right thing. Yeah, yes, absolutely. What does um you're chasing your dream? You've been doing this for a little bit. Your dream of uh being in country music, and you're putting out, man, I'll tell that I love the traditional sound, I love all that, and by the way, all that is coming back. I mean, when you listen to your Zach Topps, when you listen to uh other artists along those lines, uh Drake Milligan is another one that likes to do the rockabilly or send it back to some of those days. Um, you know, like Alan Jackson's Chattahoochee, I love that song. And I just think that is the music, and all that is coming back. So, what you're doing with more on the traditional side, of my opinion, I could be wrong. I hope I'm not. But I think it's all it's just going full circle.

SPEAKER_01:

So it's it's you're right on the I sure hope so. I hope so. You know, I um I try not to, you know, let that get to me uh because I know there's been lots of people who have been doing it a long time, and just because I have been, you know, doing it ever since I was two days old doesn't mean that I love that really doing it since I was two days old. Um, you know, and and I have to humble myself once in a while too, and say there was a day where all I wanted to do was just be able to afford a nice lifestyle through my music. And, you know, employ a band all summer or all year just by playing music. And you slowly get those. And I think all too often we'll reach a step and then we just think about the next step, and we never take a second to look back and be like, wow, I actually I actually was able to do that. So I have conquered some dreams. You know, if you just take a second and be like, actually, I have made quite a few dreams come true. We just have a whole bunch that are up here still that we're working towards.

SPEAKER_00:

You'll get to them. You'll get to them.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, we're hoping. We're not slowing down, Skip.

SPEAKER_00:

It's within your reach. What does it really look for you day to day? You know, what what what people don't see? What is it really, you know, chasing your dream? What does that look, you know, day by day?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, people ask that. And I mean, man, I just I feel like I do it all. You know, there's it's always a mix between emails and catching up on text messages and and social media messages and trying to create content and then make sure that you're posting the content and editing it all, and that takes a bunch of time, let alone like the driving. I just got done with a road trip to Texas, and then you're driving all day and you get home and you gotta unpack or repack for the next trip. And you know, I I'm so fortunate and I love being a wife now, but then that means I have to do laundry and you know, go to the grocery store or fill orders when they come through. Somebody wants some merch, so then you gotta go and and fill that or plan the tour, go book the gigs. It never ends, so never ends every day is is different, and I usually don't sit down until the end unless I've been doing some emails and stuff. But I like to be busy, so I'm I'm I'm grateful.

SPEAKER_00:

I was just gonna say, but you love it.

SPEAKER_01:

I do, I do. I I you love it, I think it is way too hard and way too much to do if uh I didn't absolutely love what I do.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely. You've played so many different kinds of shows. So we're talking about the rodeo, uh the fairs, you've been in listening rooms. What's your favorite environment to play in?

SPEAKER_01:

Anywhere where they're listening and they care, you know, that can be five people in the living room, or it can be one of the most iconic venues, like Green Hall or the Bluebird, or you know, any wonderful venues like that. If you have a crowd and you can just feel that you've got them in the palm there of your hand and and they're listening and they care about the music you're making and they care about your little stories that you're telling and where the music came from, that's that's all that matters.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what bothers me is if I go to uh go to see somebody play, whether it's here, Nashville, wherever, when I go and people just continue to talk, they're on their phones, you hear the beep here, beep there, text message, phone rings, people and the artist is trying to play, you just want to go. Well, you shut up and listen. Yeah, that is so rude, you know. So I I hear you, you want people to hear.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

That's all it's about.

SPEAKER_01:

I understand. Sometimes people go out, you know. If I'm playing in a winery or a brewery, or you know, we I've played it all. So then you understand that if somebody is coming to unwind or or have a you know dinner or something, of course they're gonna be visiting and chatting, and that's not always so bad. It's just uh I've played a couple times where they'll have a stage right next to like a children's playground, and then I love kids, I love them, but to have them just screaming on and off the stage and in front of you, and it just even gets a little bit hard to be like, Why am I here? Or what am I singing? Like, what am I doing here?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I look at it, you know, you deserve the respect. That's you know what it's about. Give me a uh Olivia. Do you have any good road stories? I mean, maybe something that was chaotic, funny, embarrassing. What comes to mind when I asked you?

SPEAKER_01:

We we've got them all. Uh, let's see. Well, when I was uh driving to Texas, so for a period of my life I lived in a travel trailer because right after COVID, uh the West Coast was all shut down, you know, like they were not the first ones to open up. And I decided that I wanted to go to Texas and play music where they were open, and I thought, well, people like honky tonks there, they like traditional country. Maybe I've got a shot in Texas. So I decided that I would buy a travel trailer and hook it up to my little F-150 pickup, load up my two cow dogs, and uh off I went, driving, you know, out into the middle of nowhere. And I was like, I'm gonna make it to Texas, and and I did, and it was a wonderful trip. But uh on my way back, uh, inevitably I got a flat tire. And uh I remember I was out there. I mean, I went through all sorts of weird weather, but I was I got the tire changed, and then I got back on the road, and then I hit like a whiteout, and it was another one of those moments where it was like definitely a God thing because I was truly panicking, and you can't when you can't see anything on the road. I'm sure you guys have have been up there where it's totally white. And I'm not just being like a California girl saying it was like snowing lightly, like I couldn't see. And uh I remember just being like, follow the semi, you know, I can't slow down or get off the road because I I would get stuck if I got off the road and I wouldn't be able to get back on or someone would see me. And I was really praying my way through it when it started to let up a little bit, and then my mom called. And uh I was she's like, I don't know. I just felt like I just felt like God was tapping me on the shoulder and telling me that I needed to call you. And you know, after kind of a rough day of the tire and the snow and everything else, I was like, All right, here I am. That still didn't stop me. Uh even still here I am, still going on.

SPEAKER_00:

Isn't that amazing how that works? It is seriously, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

The mom knew something told her she goes, I better call Olivia.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep. And I was like, you know, the water works kick in when you when you hear from mama.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, oh yeah. What um what's always in your guitar case? Anything good? I mean, besides guitar, of course.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, of course, the guitar. Um, I usually have some old set lists or spare set lists just in case I ever need one of those. Uh spare strings, spare capoe picks. Um, but probably a unique thing is I always keep chapstick in there. I am a big sucker for uh Bert's beeswax chapstick, and uh I don't know why that's my brand, but it is, and so I always have some of that in there and maybe some snacks. Uh, you know, you gotta you know when you need a snack.

SPEAKER_00:

What's one thing you won't travel without?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, um, probably it's probably turned into my hat, honestly, is I I've used to hate that. I used to hate watching my mom struggle with, you know, a hat and a guitar and her carry-on. And sometimes when you're dog tired and you're getting up at 2 a.m. to catch a flight, you don't want to put a hat on. And so you kind of try to like put it in a bag or something, but then you don't and you don't want it to get squished. And uh I used to just be like, mom, this is such a pain in the rear. Like, why are you bringing this? And um, now I've you know I've gone and turned into my mom, and now I always bring my hat with me anywhere I go for a show.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know, that's part of you, seriously. It is the hat is part of you, and I've made a lot of different country audiences gotta have their hat.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, absolutely. And you would be surprised how many times I go to a sound check and someone will come up to me and they'll be like, Are you are are you Olivia? And I'm like, Yeah, oh, I would you just don't look the same. You're you're not wearing your hat. I think I don't sleep in it, I have to take it off sometimes.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my god. But see, that's what I mean. That it's a part of you, that's how they know you.

SPEAKER_01:

It is, it's turned into a whole branding.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you've um you obviously have checked off a lot of uh big milestones, and there's more to come. Uh, but what do you think? What's next? And what are you excited about in this next year?

SPEAKER_01:

Definitely new music. I'm really excited to get back in the studio and put out my third album. It's it's been far too long, you know. When I look back and say, wow, how's it already been a couple years? Uh, and then just to see what happens. The road was a wonderful opportunity, and I was so proud to be a part of their very first season, and just to see if that's gonna open any more doors or if it'll just be a wonderful memory.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it's well, the road is pretty awesome. So yeah, it's it's definitely gonna open up some doors for you. I think it's gonna keep going. Um it's pretty cool. So what I wanna I'm just like a lot going through my mind right now. Um let's go back to COVID a little bit. How did you you said you you packed up you went to Texas to play some gigs uh or to look for some gigs and play some gigs and hopefully make a little bit of money to help pay the bills? But how did you get through COVID besides that? I mean, when things shut down, how were you able? I mean, we all have bills to pay, we all have things, you know, along those lines to that we need to take care of. And that had to be so hard as an independent artist.

SPEAKER_01:

It it was definitely tricky. Uh, you know, I I was really lucky that I kind of saw COVID coming down the pipe, and I was living in Nashville at the time. And so when I started hearing the buzz that the world was gonna shut down and that it wasn't a joke, like people were getting really serious about it. I was like, okay, I'm done with this. I'm gonna go home to Oregon. So if the world does shut down, I've got 150 acres or whatever that I can run around on and have some clean air and open spaces and be with my family and not just be all by myself. And so that's how I spent a good chunk of it. And um, I I really didn't have too much to worry about. I had one little little house that I kind of had been renting, uh, but it was 500 bucks a month.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it was like this little dump of a house that I doesn't matter, it's only 500 bucks a month. I was like, when I'm not here, I don't have to worry. And when I come back to Oregon, I have my own place. I don't have not that I don't love our ranch, but I didn't have to stay on the place with my parents. And so yeah, it was it was like very a very big blessing. I didn't really have that much expenses that I had to worry about, and I just kind of was like, I'm gonna go to Texas.

SPEAKER_00:

That's awesome. Yeah, absolutely. When you're not playing music, what do you like to do?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, when I'm not playing music and I'm not ranching and you know, like helping me. Oh, that's right. I don't know when you have time to do anything. I know, I know. Uh, I really love cooking. Uh so when I am home, like I took a lot of October off and I got to spend a lot of time home. And I love trying new recipes and and you know, just nothing like having a good meal, trying something out, having it turn out good, and then you know, getting a a thumbs up from my husband. Like this is gonna say, what is this is the keeper?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh what would you say is your husband's favorite meal that you make?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, steak for sure. That's his favorite. Yeah, and I mean, I don't know that yeah, I don't know that I'm making this steak so much that you know, but yeah, it's kind of his his forte, but um yeah, we that's his his deal is steak for sure. That would be his favorite, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, with the holidays coming up too. I mean, of course, we got Thanksgiving uh right around the corner and all that. Uh are you are you hosting and do you cook a turkey? What are you what are you doing for Thanksgiving, I guess?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, it's it's my husband's family's turn for Thanksgiving this year, and uh I I was gonna host, but then with like all the busyness and his mama decided to that she was gonna host it, and that just worked out perfectly because it would have been a lot to figure out how to come back and then you know you can have it all yeah, yeah. Come on, come on. But um, we are we're doing the meat because you know we love we love cooking, so we're doing a prime rub and a turkey, and then the the sides that go with that stuffing and gravy, so it'll be fun. We'll just spend the day in the kitchen. Yeah, it's awesome, and the pies and the I'm not doing the pies, I do love making pies, but this year, mama mama pitter is taking care of that's not on my plate.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I wish you a great Thanksgiving, so you know, the rest of the holidays that are coming up, you know. Um, if somebody wanted to follow you, where can they how can they get a hold of you? Where can they look up your music? Where can they buy your merch? I mean, it's it's really important that the viewers or the listeners go out and buy the merch because it supports the artist. So, I mean, where can they do all that?

SPEAKER_01:

All the good stuff. Uh, social media, it's all Olivia Harms music. So if you want to follow along, see where I'm going, um, see how cute my dogs are, or you know, my check out what my day-to-day life is. That's all social media for you. And if you wanted to see tour dates or grab some swag, just go to oliviaharms.com. I try not to make it too tricky. I want everybody to be able to find me.

SPEAKER_00:

I love it. I'm gonna ask you a really crazy question.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, love it.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, when was the last time you got really mad? And what was it about?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, last time I got really mad. I try to say pretty even keel. Uh, but I think the last time that I might have been shooting daggers through my eyes is uh I was playing a gig in September, and uh it was like just me and my guitar, and I was I was home locally, and I I was playing, and this guy came up to me while I was on break, and I had been dealing with a lot of really cute little girls and signing autographs for them, and he just kept interrupting and interrupting, and finally I was like, okay, hang on, you know, hang on, girl. What is it that this guy would like? And so I was chatting with him, and all he wanted to do was tell me how uh the band the night before was so much better than me, and uh that I have a lot to learn from them, and it's probably my dream to be like them. And all the while I kept thinking, he doesn't know I'm gonna be on a TV show, and that's not his fault, and maybe he's had a really hard day. I'm trying so hard to not, but I I just like finally was like, you know what? If you don't like my music, you can leave.

SPEAKER_00:

You do not have to stay exactly, and you were nice about it though. I would have said that you know what, out of here.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man, he just kept going on and he wouldn't let me go either. And I was like, All right, we're done here, and so I think by the end, you know, I probably had a little bit of fume rolling out. I tried to hold it together pretty good, but uh that one kept me fired up for a while.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you gotta smile and wave sometimes, but it it's gotta be so hard, you know. I just I don't know how you do it.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, I keep it all up here, and then then you know, the the folks close to me get my true emotions and my what I really wanted to say at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_00:

I love this, Olivia. You know, this has been incredible. It's so it's it's just exciting to get to get to know you a little bit. I've heard about you, I know who your mom is. Um, it's just exciting to have you on. I know you you being on the road and uh and all that, the television show. Um, yes, how very cool is that uh, you know, your story, your drive, your honesty, it all shines through. And it's exactly why we love having artists like you on skip happens. And sometimes skip happens, sometimes it doesn't. Tonight went button smooth. So that's what I got.

SPEAKER_01:

We skipped right along.

SPEAKER_00:

We skipped right along. I love it. I love it. And uh, you know, everybody that's listening or everybody that's watching this, whether it's now or later on, um, you know, go follow Olivia on all her socials, stream the music, support the shows. She's the real deal, as you've seen here tonight on Skip Happens. She is the real deal. And uh, Olivia, I want to say thank you for taking close, uh, very close to an hour of your time uh to hang out with us here tonight. And uh, you know, have a great holiday season. I hope I really hope to meet you sometime. I mean, I go to Nashville a couple times a year, especially for CRS. I'm always there for that. I've done that for the last 20 some odd years. But uh that's the place to go and meet a lot of if you really want to network for whatever purpose, I mean, whether it's radio or labels, that that's the place you need to be. And that's coming up in March.

SPEAKER_01:

So that's well, we'll make it happen this year and I'll get to meet you in person.

SPEAKER_00:

That that would be awesome. Just look for the uh I actually have a bar stool and bar lines, which is in the Omni.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I'm just kidding. Um, but as always, uh, you know, thank you. Thank you so much for doing this tonight. And always thank you to you for watching and listening. And uh, of course, my name is Skip Clark. This is Skip Happens, and uh, you know, can catch us up, uh you can catch up with us uh weekly right here. So make sure you subscribe and do all the good stuff. But Olivia, I want to say thank you for joining us here tonight. Uh it's just a pleasure. Pleasure to talk to you.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, thank you so much for having me, Skip. I hope you have a blessed holiday season.

SPEAKER_00:

You too. Stay right there. There we go. Thanks for watching, everybody.

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