Wisdom, Fear, And What Matters

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Cold Weather And Catching Up

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hi, everybody. It is time for another edition of Skip Happens. That's what it's all about. My name's Skip Clark. And there she is, Miss Ray.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Hi, everyone. What's going on?

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Here we are. Yeah, not much. It's good to see you. Welcome. You too. We had to take uh yeah, good to be back because uh you're back in the pod zone.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

And uh we had to take it like a a week off because you know, here in the northeast with the uh with the weather, it just and you really live in the snow country.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

Yes, yeah. So last week we got hit. There was some snow on the ground, so we weren't able to make it. Um, so I'm super happy to be back in studio this week.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Wasn't like uh was it real? It was real cold, right?

SPEAKER_02 0:42

It was really cold, it was really slippery, and it just, I don't know, it just yeah, it's what you know.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

If you're in this part of the country in the northeast, it's what we call Lake Effect. And if you don't know what it is, look it up. You can Wikipedia, yeah, you can Google it and find out what Lake Effect's all about. But it was also cold in Florida. I know I have friends that watch uh the podcast down in the Tampa area, and um, they said it was like 30, 30 degrees. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

So those that wanted to get away for a few days to get away out of the cold, they flew into the cold.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

So you know, stayed for a couple days and they came back. So yeah, that's all. So what's going on? It's so good to see you, and uh here we are. And uh you know, a lot of wisdom in this room. We you and I we I'm not sure. No, no, we sit in the radio station, you know. We all do we both do our thing, and uh you walk into the studio and we have these pretty hefty conversations at the time. Absolutely. So we go deep.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Yeah, even though we we both are very career-driven, you and I definitely tend to have philosophical conversations during work, which is is nice. It's good to kind of bounce off of another person, kind of hear what's going on with your coworkers, but also if you have something that you're thinking about, it's good to to kind of get a second opinion or even just tell another person who understands what the heck is going on, especially but do we really understand?

SPEAKER_00 2:08

I mean, you have, I mean, we say this every week, and this is why this works so well is I am where I am in my life. And young lady, you are exactly that a young lady in just starting out. So and uh really smart, fresh out of college, and doing your own thing. And God, if I would I man, if I was your age again.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

What would you do?

SPEAKER_00 2:28

What would I do? I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Especially like, and if you were like if you would be 21 again, which is how old I am, okay, would you want to be 21 back in your day or would you want to be 21 like today?

Then Vs Now: Being 21 Across Generations

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Wow. Wow. Uh I don't know. Good question. I don't that's a really good question. I don't know how I would answer that. Um, because being 21 in my day, I mean, it was we were having a lot of fun. I mean, it was it was wild, it was wild, it was wild, and it was crazy, but uh, I guess being 21 nowadays for you could be wow and crazy. Yes, you know, yeah, but uh we got away with a lot more back then. I mean, we could um you know just do so much, and nowadays uh things have really changed. I mean, we used to go to the bars. I mean, I I don't please don't, but you know, leaving the bar, I mean, we had a lot to drink and we still drove home. Um, and sometimes you'd wake up and wonder how you even got there.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

And now you can't even have finish a drink and and get pulled over and get away with it.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Yeah, but now it's exactly in New York State. Yeah, I think they uh also some a new point system just went into effect. So uh yeah, here in New York, be I mean, one uh DWI, you can lose your license. It's not just a fine and whatever, but yeah, I mean your license is done. So that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Well, it's not crazy, it's a it's probably a good thing, it saves lives.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

So but one mistake can definitely alter the the rest of your life. So being mindful, being cautious while out on the road. Yeah, being smart. Absolutely, being smart, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

So what is wisdom?

SPEAKER_02 4:12

That's a good question. I think it's uh an amount of knowledge, it's an amount of uh understanding. Um but I think that not everybody can have wisdom. I think it's kind of allowing yourself to to grow and take in different perspectives. That's that's kind of my my understanding. But how about you? What do you think wisdom is?

SPEAKER_00 4:36

Wisdom, uh, it's experience, it's learning, it's uh a lot of wins and a lot of losses. I mean, that's how that's how you gain wisdom, I think. I think that's that's what I believe in. Like I said, there's a big difference here between you and I. Right.

Defining Wisdom Through Wins And Losses

SPEAKER_02 4:53

And you said in wins and losses, and one thing that I find very interesting as a young lady is that there's people that are older than me that that sometimes make mistakes, you know, and they they choose to either change the pattern of actions and they evolve and they grow, or sometimes they do the opposite. So I think that gaining wisdom is is an a really interesting concept because I think you have to allow yourself as an individual to become vulnerable and open-minded in order to gain good wisdom.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Ask yourself what really matters.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

I'm gonna be honest, that's a hard question because what really matters? You know what I mean? And I think what really matters changes all the time, you know. I think it even can stem from are you are you a materialistic person? Are you somebody that that needs something in your your hand? Um, or to see, are you someone that that needs to feel something? Are you, you know, there's a lot of different different ways to get what what you need and to understand what matters.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Yeah, you know, pain. Pain accelerates um wisdom only if you reflect, not if you just endure it. When you think back about whatever happened that caused you pain, it's gonna make a difference in your wisdom as you think ahead. It's like you don't want to go back there.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

It's kind of like the saying, maybe that you have to like hit rock bottoms to go up, you know. Sometimes you have to to endure pain or endure that that low point in order to go back up, um, or to even have that that courage to change your actions and want to be different.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

What about listening um more than talking? Think about it.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

That's very interesting. I also think it's interesting because um I see Grace Sessler in the comments, and I want to give her a huge, huge shout out for what I'm about to say next. Grace.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

That's for Grace, everybody. That's for Grace. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

So she her and I we went to an amazing podcast this uh a couple weekends ago. Tell us and it was phenomenal, phenomenal. It was a great experience. Um, but we were kind of we were also getting very philosophical, very like deep talks on the way home. It may be, may have been the sleep deprivation, but it doesn't matter. You know, we were just two girls that were were co we're just cruising, vibing. So we're talking about all this philosophical stuff. And she's like, Reagan, you know, you gotta read these books, you know, you gotta read. I think it's called The Four Principles. Grace, put it in the comments, girl. I know you got me. Um, so it's called The Four Principles, and basically the first principle is understanding that your word holds power.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

And like what you say holds power. So I think that kind of ties into like how because sometimes people just say things to say things, or they might be reactive or emotional versus logical.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

So it's it's is it like speaking before thinking?

SPEAKER_02 8:04

Absolutely. We talked about it. The four agreements, thank you, not the four principles. There you go. Oh, I see it now. Yeah. Yeah. Um, by Don Miguel Ruiz. Perfect. Thank you, Miss Grace. Um I started reading that, but yeah, it's kind of understanding that like sometimes people say things um react like I said, reactively out of emotion, or they say it logically because they're intentionally meaning it. Um but it's understanding that that your word holds power and other people's do as well.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

So listening more than talking.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Right. So but when listening, like how can you really trust what you're listening and how can you pick and choose? And do you have to be wise in order to no?

SPEAKER_00 8:47

I think listening's gonna help you get wiser. You ask better questions, that's one thing, and then you sit with silence, and you learn from people who disagree with them. You do. How many? I mean, how often do we learn from somebody? It's okay to disagree, but to learn something from that, right? It all goes towards wisdom.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

Yeah. For sure.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

Uh just uh I'm I'm reading some of the comments there. There you go. Oh, Jason, Jason Kranz, by the way, he got the mug. And uh John Williard. Miss Ray is going to attend CRS next month.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

Uh I won't be there, John. Oh man, but yeah, but we we are talking, maybe um a future country music event. Miss Ray might make an appearance. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

I love it. Do you accept when it we let's go back to wisdom? I mean, how about accepting trade-offs? How about uh going down that road? Immature thinking looks perfect for outcomes, wise thinking understands. I just I saw some notes here. So I think that's that's how true is that, you know? Every choice costs something, good or bad.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Think about that.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

And it's better to live with with no regrets. I think that's what everybody says. And I I firmly believe that you should live with no regrets.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Yeah, and what down uh down uh side can you live with? If right.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

I mean, what's the advantage of not trying anything, you know, or or not experiencing it while you can? I think that's where that regret comes into play.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Well, what about uh let me ask you this uh responsibility? That plays a that plays a big role. I mean, that's all part of the the puzzle when it comes to wisdom. Right, yeah, you know, yeah you own your outcomes, you you stop blaming luck, people, or systems. Uh how often do we do that? I think we all do that.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Yeah, we all do that.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

It's like, wow.

unknown 10:43

Yeah.

The Four Agreements And Power Of Words

SPEAKER_02 10:44

I think there's also a lot of trust built within wisdom. You know, trust. I do. I think trust of knowledge for that individual, but I think that people that are wise are they people that other people gravitate towards? You know what I mean? I mean, who would not want to be around somebody that's wise? So you you trust yourself to accept the knowledge that you get, but you're also like having other people trust you with your knowledge and your insight, which is a really cool concept.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

How do you think um wisdom shows up as what do you think it does? Because I mean, there's slower reactions, fewer words, better timing.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

It may all go that this guy's got some good wisdom.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Yeah. I think the good timing, you know, kind of going back to the four agreements um and being intentional with what you what you say and knowing that your word holds power, like speaking before you uh, I mean, thinking before you speak, I think is very important. That's something that I'm working on personally. It's it's not that I necessarily live with a lot of like regrets and things that I say. It's just that I want people to appreciate what I say more, and I want people to be like, wow, what's she saying?

SPEAKER_00 11:59

How do you how do you feel when you think, all right, nobody's listening to you? Or you're saying something that means That's a pet peeve. That's a pet peeve. Seriously. Because it kills me.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

It absolutely drives me insane, and I think it's because I'm somebody that that does listen to people. I think it's very important to take that second. That up 100% to listen to people. So when it's not reciprocated, it it's very frustrating for me. But one saying that I I really hold very dear and true uh dear to my heart is that you can't expect yourself out of other people. So even though I might be somebody that's gonna sit there and listen to what you're saying, another person might not might not do that. And that's okay. Like that's that's fine. But I'm I'm not gonna let that impact me or take that personally because that's not that's not on me, that's on that individual and how they handle themselves.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

I think we go through that every day. I I do. There's some point in your day that somebody they're listening, but they're not listening. And then how does that make you feel at the end of the day? What do you ask yourself? Uh, what did I learn today? What surprised me? What would I do differently next time?

SPEAKER_02 13:13

I don't know. I I'd rather sit and have sit there and think like, did somebody listen than have someone sit there and be say something that makes me think like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Like I'd rather I know this kind of rolls into something a little bit different here, but do you think how do you feel when somebody criticizes you? When somebody's got something, does it bother you? So And if it does, how do you get over that?

SPEAKER_02 13:41

So one there wasn't it? That's a great question. And I think it really when I was in college, I had a professor who I was a photo minor and I was in class, and I remember she like tore my artwork apart. She was like, Reagan, you could have done this better, like this, the lighting, all this other stuff. And I was upset, you know, which is granted, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Did you tell her to do it herself?

Listening Deeply And Learning From Disagreement

SPEAKER_02 14:09

No, but I also thought like I kind of was sassy about it because I was like, she didn't do that to anybody else. Like, why is she making comments to me, you know? And I had two choices there, and I was like, you know, I can really let this impact me and just drop this minor and just call it quits, or I can say, you know, that person criticizing me is because they care about me, and it's because they want to see me be a better individual in the headspace, and was like, Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

Yeah, that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

The second I stepped into that headspace and was like, you know, she's she's genuinely trying to make me better, is when I started to accept criticism better. And I think like the other day at work, we had an interview, and you you criticize me. You in a good way, in a great way. You were like, I'm going to go. I think it was like something with timing. Oh, it was um during the interview, I kept saying, Oh, I love that. I love that. And I took that as kind of a constructive criticism where I was like, I was, I was kind of embarrassed. I was kind of like, That's not, I wish I did better. And then I sat with it for a few hours. Like I went home and I sat with it and I was like, you know. No, no, no, because I was like, he wants me to be better. He's not saying that to anybody else to be better. He's saying it to me because he cares about me and he knows that I want to be better. And if he didn't care about that, then he would have just let me sit there and continue to say I love it. You know what I mean? But instead, you were like, Reagan, like you're not, and the way that you said it as well was like, you did great, you did phenomenal, but you're like, you know, we gotta think of some other ways to say that, which is great, it's completely true.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

I mean, that's the way I was, that's the way I was talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

I think it was my own insecurities, and and that I think plays into how we interact with people and and stuff like that, and how we understand people, you know. It's my own personal, it's my own headspace. You know, I was I was kind of with myself and I was like, I'm just I'm not proud of that. So I I wasn't very happy with the criticism that you also saw that. But like I said, if you didn't make that criticism, like No, I mean, my goal is to make you the best you can be. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

And what there's you know, and I I would expect that if you were to tell me something. I mean, like, say we have this little difference between us, but I would expect that, and I would sit back and think about it and go, okay, yeah, she's right. This is what I need to do, you know. Uh Jeff Gaucko says eighth grade, Mr. Bishop ripped me apart in front of the class for my science project, had such a big impact on me, I had a fear of public speaking or presenting till my senior year of college. And he goes, damn you, Mr. Bishop. But no, he's right. And Jeff, Jeff is um, you know, he's in Nashville, he's all over the place. He's a great publicist, he he does a lot, he's worked for the government. He worked in the White House.

SPEAKER_02 16:58

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Yeah, uh, just to let you know, Jeff, part of the White House is missing. Just saying, you know, they ripped down whatever wing that was. So, anyways, no, go ahead. I don't mean to go off subject because when we get the critique, I'll get yelled at. Oh my gosh. Then I'll pope. Then I'll pope. But yeah, I mean, it's you know, just good stuff. It's all about wisdom, it's all about you know, getting advice and how do you handle it. And and you gotta understand that more than likely, more times than not, it's to make you better.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

Yeah, you know, yeah, and the only thing that will hold you back from being better is yourself, you know. If you yeah, yeah, nobody's gonna stop you, and nobody, I think a lot of people also um live with fear, and that's something that we don't like to accept or express that that there is fear, you know. Like Jeff, there are situations that I think a lot of people deal with in their youth, and then it it transfers over, and you live with a fear, you're like, you know, I'm kind of nervous about that. But the second you allow yourself to senior year of college or whenever in your life to kind of let loose and be like, you know, I'm gonna become vulnerable and I'm gonna open myself up and try something new.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

But there's there's nothing wrong with living in fear.

Trade-Offs, Responsibility, And No Regrets

SPEAKER_02 18:19

When you think about it, not all right, not always, because I think is fear in charge? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

But long answer would be no. I'm reading this. If fear is, it says short answer is yes if fear is in charge. I said, is it wrong to live with fear? It said, shorter answer, yes, if fear is in charge. The long answer, no, if fear is information.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

Absolutely. I completely agree with that. That's a that's that's a good line. I agree with that because my rebuttal was gonna be like, you know, if you people live in fear, like um, like if you go in a dangerous neighborhood, like people don't go in willingly into dangerous neighborhoods if I'm like if they don't necessarily have to, or, or different circumstances like that.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

So don't do you become um like if you show that you're afraid or you have a lot of fear, you you become vulnerable. You know what I mean? You have to, I mean, I don't want anybody to, but still you have to have confidence in yourself. And once you show that you're afraid of something or you have some fear, then you become vulnerable to whoever, whatever, wherever, however, you know. But uh yeah, fear isn't wrong, letting it decide is that's what I say.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Yeah. So and like what Jeff said again, fear can help motivate you. So I I definitely agree with that, that fear can help make you want to be better.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

And you know, it's funny that he said that because I do have here um fear is in control, it uh narrows your choices, keeps you stuck in safe but unfulfilled places, trades long-term meaning for short-term.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

What do you think control like go, girl, go? Yes, I have a good question. I know hang on. I'm trying to think how to phrase it. It's um crickets. Go ahead. What do you think creates fear? Do you think it's like a nature nurture situation? I'm gonna go that route. Do you think it's like a nature nurture?

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Uh creating fear would be just not having confidence in yourself. I think that creates a lot of fear.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

Do you think that's nature or nurture though?

SPEAKER_00 20:28

Uh that might be nature.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

Not being confident is not nature or what do you think? I think it's nurture.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Okay. All right. I'm not gonna argue. Not gonna argue, but no, no, I I I understand that. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

Because if you're taught, I don't think we all know danger innately. Like we don't, I don't know. Because that's a tough one. I kind of stump myself because I do think that there are situations where we just have that gut feeling, like we know, like don't do that, you know. Like there are situations in that, but there are also situations where it's it's not that situation, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Fear makes you a better person.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Did you think that? Yeah, it can, but it can also make you not a good person. If you're fearful of other people and other understandings, and I think that's we we kind of live in that state right now, you know, where people don't are making judgments about other people. Um well, more now than ever. And I think it's it's basically it's not right.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Yeah. But uh, you know.

Fear: Information Or Driver

SPEAKER_02 21:44

But it's it's what's happening, it's what we're doing. So I think it's important to to recognize that that's what's happening. That's the first step, recognition, and then trying to change that, you know, kind of realizing like I'm not I'm not a big fan of this, and I can't control. Those people and what they're doing, but I can control what I do. And I know that negativity is contagious with those positivities. So if anybody's gonna start the positive, you know, it's I'm gonna start with me.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

Yeah, so we started out with wisdom and that rolls into fear. But what social media must play a big part nowadays? That's gotta be like a big part of fear, and also wisdom when you think about it, because of what's being said. You brought up the point, the fact, you know, people are not talking very nice about other people right now, you know. Whether or not they don't even know half of these people or any of them.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

And yeah, and I think that social media allows um people to be anonymous in what they say sometimes, so they feel like they can get away with saying things, but I don't agree with that. I think that people don't realize that social media is just as public as walking in a grocery store. Everything is out there, everything is kept track of, everything. It's just it's very interesting to me some things that people share or comment on on social media because they might think, oh, I'm just directly texting this per, you know, commenting on this person's post, and they don't realize like the much deeper deal that's going on. It's crazy, yeah, crazy stuff. Very, very interesting. It is and I also I would love to ask, like, how you know, I grew up kind of talking about our age and how we grew up, like social media really wasn't a thing.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Well, it definitely wasn't for me.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

But you've grown up with it, yeah. So like I've I've had it for a long, like I mean, practically all your life.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Yeah, absolutely. 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

I mean that accessibility and the the seeing things and the comparison and the commenting and stuff like that has always been very, very prevalent for me. So I just it kind of shapes my view differently than yours. So I wonder how like how do you like social media for me, like you can go on my Facebook. I barely post anything besides work-related. Like, I I am nervous what I say, I'm nervous, like I'm nervous about other people critiquing it. Um not always, but like, do you know what it's just I just you gotta know your borders, you gotta know how far you can go.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

Um, probably more so with me, though, because doing what I do for a living, do I want to go and alienate or you know, make my audience really divided? That's the last thing I ever want to do. And I will never ever, I can tell you this when it comes to social media, I will never ever attack somebody online. That's the last thing I want to do. I may be entitled to my opinions, but I, you know, I keep them to myself. And doesn't mean I'm not gonna like you. Uh your opinion is your opinion. You can say what you want, but uh me as an on-air person, you know, we are not talk radio, we are not news, we're not, I'm not one of those shock type jocks. I don't do that. I don't do that. I'm there to entertain. I mean, I did say something today, and I I kept it pretty much hey, this is what's going on. Was the I was talking about the airport situation with the Palm Beach uh International Airport and they're changing the name. Well, it hasn't been done yet. It's got to still go through the I think the Senate, but uh we know how that goes. But um I don't mean to go, you know, it's a podcast and it's my own podcast. But um, but seriously, it's just you know, but I just talk about those things, and when I do mention something like that, I do not go like the political route. I just say, this is what's happening. Boom, and move on.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

Because I think people want to know, good or bad, they still want to know, but you know, it's all crazy.

Social Media, Trust, And Civility

SPEAKER_02 25:51

And when you politics is one of those touchy things where people become very defensive, and we also we think that we're much more polarized than we actually are. So people's mental is like, oh, we're we're divided and we have to think differently. When the reality of it is like the statistic, we're not that, we're not that polarized, we're not that different. But the people that are different on those are the ones that are so.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

What do you think? Let me ask you. Uh Jeff says, Wow, this interview is deep. Dr. Phil, look out.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Skip's coming for your job.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

I don't know. I'm the last one to be talking like this. I'm I'm a guy that sits here in the pod zone and and I talk to all the artists and the stars and this and that. And then we do our, you know, we kind of go down a different road when you're over here. And this is this is what I want to do is, you know, go deep and talk about life because we have two different perspectives. And with that being said, as we shift gears here just a little bit, is in your words, how do you think we are different?

SPEAKER_02 26:59

Um, all right, guys. So, first off, I'm not gonna say anything. I just want everybody to get a good look.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

I'm gonna go get grab a glass of wine, okay?

SPEAKER_02 27:08

How we're different. Um I don't know, because you and I, I think physically are very different, but personally, like we're both we're both driven for the same thing. We don't agree on everything. Um everything. But that goes back to what we said before.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

Like I had said something, but then you realized it. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

Yeah. Okay. Um so I think that we, yeah. We just sometimes think differently, but you and I definitely she doesn't know what to say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

He's my boss. I can't be crazy. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

There's no. What do you think the biggest difference is?

SPEAKER_00 27:52

I think, well, of course, the age, but I think uh it's, you know, we have different opinions on the music.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

Yes, that's big time.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Uh but it's obvious because even though I know a lot of people, you know, your age and that like music, but they also like a lot of the stuff I like. But you, you know, you're kind of you're different that way. And that's to be respected. That's what you listen to, that's what you enjoy. That's absolutely correct.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Our listener habits are very different, completely different.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Yeah. Night and day. Yeah. Yes. I mean night and day. Um, but uh, I think we have the same goal in mind. I think, you know, when it comes to what we do for a living, and you're new on board. I mean, you've been there a few months now, you're kicking ass, you're making it work. Um I think we have this, you're welcome. I think, but I'm I'm speaking the truth. I think we have the same dream and the same passion and the same dedication, but maybe in a different way. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Because you have your way of doing things, I have my way of doing things. And for a guy um my age, I think I'm a little different than most people my age. Number one, I'm not in a nursing home yet. Oh my gosh. And um, but no, I mean, what do I do at work? I am uh I'm not doing things the old-fashioned way, I'm not using paper, I'm not doing any of that. Uh, I think most people that would be doing or are do what I do. This is what's different between us. Because today, you what was it today or yesterday? You had all these prize sheets, right? Had them all printed out and everything. I'm like, what are you doing that for? We just got the computer. We'll put them in uh, you know, I'll make an Excel file, we'll put our winners in there. But that's that's okay. But see, that's the difference. You want a paper trail.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

I love a paper trail, and I don't know where that stems from, but I'm I love a paper trail.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

But see, I'm looking at it where my job can be so much easier. I just have the computers in front of me, and when I take a winner or whatever, I can just type in their name, their email address, their phone number, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

So true.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

You know what? And it I do it in a matter of no time. So, no time. But no, I mean, so you know, it's like our lives are turned around. I don't know if that, you know, if you're watching this, if you have that maybe you're part of the world. Or maybe or working.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

I haven't gained enough wisdom yet, and I'm being stubborn because you have some fear. Because I have some fear, and I I have fear of a of of technology, and I don't I do. I hate ex well, I hate accepting that and saying that, but I yeah, I think that there's magic in human creativity. Like I genuinely I don't deny that. I think that seeing an individual through and through, like as it just it's it's amazing, whether in any art spectrum, you know what I mean? Like whether you're a singer, whether you're a photographer, whether you're a painter, whether you're anything like that, I think that it's just it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

I'm d I'm doing some homework here. Keep talking.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

Um you typing distracted me.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

I know, I know, I know. This is gonna be funny.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

Oh goodness.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Yeah, because I want to see what the computer says about the difference in age between us. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

But yes, I I definitely still tend to be more untraditional with I mean, traditional with the way that I do things. I love writing on paper, I love doing stuff like that.

Generational Differences And Work Styles

SPEAKER_00 31:30

This has got to we'll have to do this next week because I think we're almost out of time here for tonight, but I don't want to go off too much. But uh, you know, that I said, tell me the differences between you being your age and me being my age. And it said, relationship to time, just a little bit here. 21-year-old. Time feels infinite. Yes, deadlines feel urgent, consequences feel distant. Right? But later, it feels guaranteed. Now, in my situation, time feels finite, infinite, infinite, infinite. No, it's not infinite. Infinite, yeah. Infinite. Okay. Urgency is about meaning, not speed.

unknown 32:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Okay. And uh later is no longer a shirt. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

What are your fears today?

SPEAKER_00 32:28

And it says wisdom shift from wasting time without noticing to protecting it deliberately. What's that now?

SPEAKER_02 32:34

What's your what are what are your fears today?

SPEAKER_00 32:36

My fears?

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Yeah, what are you afraid of?

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Uh I don't know. I want like on a on a personal level? What am I afraid of? I'm afraid of I feel great and all that, but I know that you know, I see a lot of people I went to school with that are no longer with us, or you read about them online because I don't get the paper. Um But uh, you know, it's like, oh my God, I went to school with that person. Oh my God, what happened? Oh, you know, or it that's that kind of makes me nervous, even though I feel great. Um I've taken good care of myself now, um, more than I ever have. And I I'm I'm afraid of not being there for my son if he needs me down the road. That that that's what I do think about. My son being, you know, Zach, Down syndrome, 25 now, but still that that's like my biggest fear. I'm not afraid of what's gonna happen at work. I or not I'm not saying anything's happening, it's just it's more of a personal thing. Uh on that whole other side, I'm fine. I'm fine. You know, I mean, I have my look at my room.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

Yeah. That's very interesting because I think that a lot of my fears are professionally motivated.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

It's the age.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

And I think that age plays into that. Um, because I'm scared that I'm not gonna make it and I'm not gonna succeed, and I'm not that all like it feels like I've worked so hard, even though I'm just starting.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

But it's like that's not a bad fear. It's because it's gonna motivate you.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Absolutely. Absolutely, just like Jeff said earlier.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

100% is gonna motivate me. It's gonna motivate her. You know, I love my toys. What can I say? All right, stop there. We're all good. So, anyways, yeah, so we have wisdom, fear, and uh, we talked uh a little bit about you know the difference between us. And I think next week, next Wednesday, but we do this every Wednesday. So um make sure you save it, do what you gotta do, make sure you subscribe to Skip Happens, and uh, we will get into it uh next week a little bit about the difference between us a little bit more. And if you've got a great topic, I mean let us know as well. Yeah, yeah, they can't.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

Start brainstorming those questions.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

Yeah, you can you can go to skiphappenspodcast.com and just fill out the form. Plus, if you want to come on, we can chat.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

That's what I was just gonna say. Don't you have a form on there where people can join us? I know not that they fill it out. Joining us, we were gonna have a little visitor today.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Oh, what all the way, Abilene.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

We were gonna have Abilene join us. And do you know what? She has fear, she let fear overcome her.

SPEAKER_00 35:22

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

Which is fine.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Tell everybody who Abilene is.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

Abiline. Okay, I'm gonna give her some credit. She's 11 years old and she's my little sister. And in the spur of the moment, I called her and I was like, Abby, do you wanna do you wanna come on the podcast? And she's like, No. And I was like, I was like, are you sure you do so great? You do amazing. And she was like, No. And I was like, behind that, no, was a yes.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

You know that. She really wanted to do that.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

So I and immediately I was so proud of her for even I don't know. I'm just proud of her because I think that it takes a lot of guts to do to do this.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

And she looks up to you, and she can see what you're doing. So I don't know why she wouldn't down the road.

Personal Fears: Family, Career, And Meaning

SPEAKER_02 36:06

So it was just, it was so cool. Yeah, but yes, I'm excited to see how she evolves. Um, because she's like a sponge, right? You know, she's 11. She's taking it all in. Taking it all in shifting perspective from my brain is so full, things bounce off now. It just except when you come in and we have the deep conversation.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

So it is pickleball, pickle brain. Yeah. Uh yeah, that's the way it works. But uh, Miss Ray, thanks for coming in tonight. Hanging out in the podcast zone, baby, the pod zone. Uh, of course, each and every Wednesday. Subscribe. Next week, we're gonna go deep as well. We're gonna talk about uh the difference between us, as I mentioned, and uh well, you got something you want to bring up, just let us know. But uh, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for watching. This is Skip Happens.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Good night, everyone. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

Let me get a little