Small Town Voice, Big Country Dreams | Johnathon Heilbroun on Skip Happens

On this episode of the Skip Happens Podcast, Skip sits down with rising country artist Johnathon Heilbroun, an 18-year-old singer from the small town of Concord, Georgia, where everybody knows everybody and country stories still matter.

Johnathon talks about growing up in Pike County, getting his first guitar, learning Scotty McCreery’s “Five More Minutes,” stepping on stage for the first time at the Williamson Wisteria Festival, and the moment he knew music was what he wanted to do for the rest of his life.

He also shares the story behind his single “Goodbye Looks Like,” what it’s like being on his first radio tour, how Mama Jan and vocal training helped him become a “vocal athlete,” and why he wants his music to help people forget their troubles for three and a half minutes.

If you love real country stories, small-town roots, and discovering new artists before everybody else does, this is one to watch.

Listen to Johnathon Heilbroun’s music on all streaming platforms and follow his journey online.

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Transcript

Banter And Meeting Jonathan Hill Brown

SPEAKER_00 0:00

And we are all starting right now.

SPEAKER_02 0:05

Don't start if you're starting to get on my nerves. Just starting, just start.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Starting now. Starting now. No, we're we're starting right now. That's the way it goes. Uh, but hello everybody, and welcome back to another edition of the Skip Happens podcast. Uh, tonight I've got one of country music's bright young voices. Jonathan Hillbrown is with me. And Jonathan, get this. I think you're 18, right? You're 18. Damn. Okay. 18-year-old country artist from a small town, Concord, Georgia. And I was just telling him, I had to look it up. I said, man, that that's gotta be small. And it's about 430 people, give or take, a little bit. That's that's tiny. And it's the kind of town, I guess it would be the kind of place where uh everybody knows everybody. Yes, sir. And stories still matter. Uh your musical journey started early. You had piano lessons at the age of 10, chorus in middle school. Very first guitar was a Taylor GS Mini. Yes, sir. If they gave me the right info, okay. So that's right. Yes, sir. Yeah, and uh that helped set set everything in motion. Uh, Jonathan, it's so good to see you, my friend. Yes, sir. Thank you for having me. Yeah, you're on the road right now. Yes, sir. Yeah, whereabouts are you?

SPEAKER_03 1:22

Uh, we're in a hotel in Fort Payne, Alabama.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Fort Payne, I've never been to Alabama, but I talked to a lot of artists from Alabama. But uh, that's cool. So you're doing what they call a radio tour. Yes, sir. And uh that uh if you don't know what it is, I know you know, but in case the viewers or the listeners do not know what it is, it's when the newer artist will go and they'll hit up the radio stations, introduce themselves to the people that program the stations and in hopes of getting them to play the music and all that. And uh after listening to the song, which we're gonna play here in just a little bit, uh they should be playing it. I'm just saying, they should be playing it. And uh, we're in the northeast, we're up in Syracuse. That's I'm in my pod zone here, and uh, you know, I share a lot of what I do with the artists like yourself with what we do on the air at uh at the radio station. It's called Wolf. And and the cool thing about where I am, we are our call letters are W O L F Wolf. That's yeah, that's cool. So I always go, we're like the real wolf. So, anyways, it's very cool. It's a legendary, uh, those call

Growing Up In Tiny Town Georgia

SPEAKER_00 2:24

letters are legendary. But uh again, welcome, Jonathan. Uh, you're from Concord, Georgia, a small town, Pike County. Uh, what was it like growing up in a place where almost everybody knows each other?

SPEAKER_03 2:36

Um, I wouldn't have it any other way, honestly. Um, it's it's great. Uh, you know, if everybody's always ready to help, everybody's so polite. Um, I can't think of one time somebody didn't hold the door open. Um, you know, whether it was myself or somebody held the door open for me. Uh it's just that kind of thing where everybody knows everybody. And um, if you do something wrong, somebody knows your mama.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Exactly. And you don't have house numbers, you have names. Like we're gonna go down to the Smiths, or we're gonna go over to the Hill Browns, or we're gonna go over to the Jones's house. Nobody has house numbers, right? Yeah, wow. And and anytime something happens, everybody knows about it. Yes, sir. So everybody's kind of in everybody else's business too. But it's a it's a good thing, it's a good thing. Yes, sir. And like you said, everybody watches out for everybody, so that's that's kind of cool. So, how uh how much does that small town Georgia upbringing shape the kind of country music you want to make?

SPEAKER_03 3:36

Um, I think it does a lot. Um, you know, there's a there's a lot of people in this business that are just in it for the money, um, you know, stuff, you know, in it for the wrong reasons. Uh but my reason that I'm in this business is because I love it and it's what I've it's what I want to do. Um, but also because for three and a half minutes, I want somebody listening to my song to forget about every other worry they have in the world, every other problem, whether it's you know, your girlfriend left you or you ran out of drinking money or whatever it is, um, for for the next three and a half minutes, I want that person to forget about their problems and just enjoy the moment.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

That's pretty awesome. But dude, I gotta tell you, you you're only 18. Yes, sir. So the the drinking and the girl, you're still so young in the game that uh, but you're writing these songs or you're putting this

Breakup Songwriting And The Hook

SPEAKER_00 4:35

this music out like you're you're a part of that. How do you do that?

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Uh well, this song, the one that you're about to play, Goodbye looks like, was actually um inspired by true events in a way.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Um, it's more of a uh metaphorical driving away in my case. So the way the song came about is I got on a Zoom meet with some buddies of mine, Mr. Grayson Campbell and Mr. Tim Comex.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

Love it.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

And we were looking to write a song, and we were all throwing out hook idea ideas of you know, what do we think we're gonna write tonight? And I was like, um, you know, I threw out some, but Grayson threw out this idea and he said, What does goodbye look like? And at the time I was going through a pretty rough breakup, so it just kind of hit me that night, and I was like, That's what we're writing. And we wrote the song in three and a half hours that night.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

And I and listening to the song, I mean, yeah, I being older, of course, and been through probably many more relationships than, but uh, it's it's so true. The taillights, there she goes, you know, stuff like that. So, and we're gonna do that, we'll talk about that and we'll play it here in a little bit. But uh, so your musical journey actually started with piano lessons. Uh the notes they gave me said you did that at around the age of 10. What what do you remember about those early lessons?

SPEAKER_03 6:03

Um, well, I remember it hurting my hands. Okay, because uh, you know, stretch stretching your hands is uh that's a big part of playing piano, but I think playing piano helped me in playing guitar because my hands already were used to stretching to hit notes. So when I wrapped my hand around a guitar neck, really reaching the strings wasn't too hard of a problem. Um, so I think that helped me, but other than that, I can't tell you much theoretical about piano or anything.

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Then you did uh you said uh course in middle school. So that must and yes, sir. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

Uh I was gonna tell you the story behind that. So this is this is how I got started into music. So ever since I was in kindergarten, I wanted to be in the NFL. I went to football camps, and you know, I was on the all-star team and these at these college football camps. I made like the elite cut of like their their top top uh trainees, I guess you would call us. The students that would take the the actual camp. So I made like the elite cuts, and like I was my my goal was to be in the NFL. That's what I wanted. Well, middle school rolls around because in sixth grade the rec league stops for football, and I was homeschooled. So I had to go to I had to go to school. So I went to Griffin Christian Academy, which was a private school close to where we live. And uh I was playing football there, and being a 13-year-old boy, this girl heard me singing one time, and she goes, Hey, you need to join the school chorus class. Now, what do 13-year-old boys do when a girl tells them to do something? Exactly. They do it. So I did. And um, you know, the first week I was in class, the teacher looked at me and she was like, You get a solo song. So um that's really that's uh that kind of got me back into music and you know, kind of gave me the uh the little bit of push I needed.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

So you said that was at the Christmas concert, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 8:22

Um, and then for Christmas that year, the same year, my parents finally got me a guitar, they got me a Taylor GS Mini. And I took my first guitar lesson in January of 2021, and I learned Five More Minutes by Scotty McCray. And so I was kind of, you know, I was I was enjoying it, and I was kind of getting what at the time I thought was pretty good. Um, but I've gone back and listened to that video since then, and I cringe at it every time. But um I went and one town over from Concord is a town called Williamson.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

And um the every year they have an arts and crafts festival known as the Williamson Wisteria Festival. And every year to kick off the festival, they have a talent show the night before. So four months after my first guitar lesson, I decided I was gonna go and I was gonna enter into that into that talent show, and I did. And listening to the people cheer and hearing them, I like I was like, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. I can so um I quit doing football and I've been chasing music 100% ever since.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Well, I think you might have made the right to right choice. Now, I don't know, and you know, are you a big guy?

SPEAKER_03 9:50

No, sir. I'm I weigh 150 pounds.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

Okay, all right, all right. That's it because you know, obviously, yeah, okay. So I think you made the right choice. I'm sure you could be a you know a great football player, but still, I mean, from what I've heard, the voice, the music, and all that sounds really good. Do you still have that Taylor uh GS Mini?

SPEAKER_03 10:09

I do. It's hanging up on the wall at home.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

Cool. You you never get rid of that.

SPEAKER_03 10:13

No, sir.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Never, never. And someday you're gonna look back on that and go, Yes.

Football Dreams To First Stage Win

SPEAKER_00 10:18

That's that's when it all started.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Because I firmly believe you're gonna be doing something here pretty quick. When was the first song you learned to play on the guitar? Uh Five More Minutes by Scotty McCracken. Oh, yeah, you did mention that. And Scotty, I mean, have you had a chance to sit with Scotty, talk with Scotty, or anything like that?

SPEAKER_03 10:34

I have not. I would love to, but I have not.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Yeah, he's been he's been on the podcast, and he's he's such a down-to-earth, cool guy. Um, just very, just very awesome. And more or less, he's the reason you're doing this. So you know, that's pretty cool. Um, did you, you know, take us back to the the the festival, the what the Williamson uh Wisteria festival. What do you remember about um you know stepping on that stage for the first talent show?

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Uh well, I remember being so nervous that I was quite literally shaking in my boots. Um so I was I mean, I was I was nervous like a like a leaf on a tree. I mean, it was totally I was shaking, I was nervous. Um, but once I got started, I got comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:24

And it's uh it's kind of that way every time, you know. Before a show, there there's a little bit of nervousness that happens, um, not as bad as the first time. I'd I've gotten rid of the shakes. Um, yeah, but it's like an exciting nervous, you know, it's like one of those things that you're like, I can't wait, right? And then you get out on stage and you feel at home. You know, it's like everything just calms down.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

Exactly. Are you uh are you doing this um the radio tour by yourself? You're getting in your own car and like driving around.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

No, sir. I brought my mom with me.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

Oh, mom.

SPEAKER_03 12:02

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

That's pretty awesome. I was gonna ask about your family. Tell me a little bit about your family.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

Um, well, uh, let's see. We are originally from Carrollton, Georgia, which is uh all these little towns I've never ever heard of.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

I've been through Georgia, maybe Atlanta. I go through the airport once in a while, been to you know, you spend a few hours at the airport in Atlanta. But I would say Atlanta Airport is probably one of the better airports the way it's laid out. Yeah, it's massive, but I'm just huge. I it's easy to get from one spot to another.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

It is. I have flown into other airports and being used to Atlanta, yeah. You know, you walk into other airports and you're like, where's all people? Atlanta's actually the busiest airport in the world.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

Yeah, no, it is, it's right up there with O'Hare. Uh you got Kennedy, you got LA. I know I I buff all, you know, I love airplanes and I listen to airports, uh, the towers and stuff. I'm a geek. I'm a geek. So and I love being a geek.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

I think it's uh I think it's it's number one, it's number one ahead of somewhere in like Shanghai or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

So out of the whole world, Atlanta's the busiest airport. So you get off in Atlanta and you're used to all these people around, you get off somewhere else, and you're like, where's everybody at?

SPEAKER_00 13:23

Kind of makes you wonder sometimes. I I totally get it. So again, tell me about your family. You got your mom with you. Do you have siblings? Um you have pets? What's the deal? I do.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Um I have an older sister, she's 10 years older than me. Actually, cool thing, we're 10 days being 10 years old. Really? So I was born 15th, 2007. She was born November 25th, 1997.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Wow, how is it that's weird, but not weird. It's different. I don't know how to say it, but it's like what a coincidence that you know, it's that 10-day difference. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

And uh, I just I got a a new niece that just turned seven months old yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Excellent. Congrats, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 14:10

And uh I have Uncle Jonathan, yes, sir. Um, and then um obviously my mom and dad, and then uh I have a red-nosed pit bull that sleeps in the bed with me. A hundred pound lapdog. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I know he thinks he thinks he's this big, but he is huge, and um he's he's like my little baby.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Yeah, absolutely. We have a um yellow lab one. I'm surprised he hasn't come running down here into the pod zone because he's like a hundred pounds and he's a lap dog. Yes, sir. It's you'd be watching the game or whatever on television, and wham, it's like, okay, Rossi, you need to get down. But uh yeah, absolutely. What's the name of the dog? Uh Maverick. Maverick, love it, love it, love it. Now, are they all with you in Nashville or they still are they still home?

SPEAKER_03 15:03

So I still live at home uh inward.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

Oh, okay. All right.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

Um, I gotcha. We all we all live there, my mom and my dad, and me and the dog. Uh my sister's married and she lives with her husband about 45 minutes away.

SPEAKER_00 15:17

Yeah, close enough.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

But far enough. Yes, sir. Get together for the holidays. I get it. I don't I totally get it for for holidays and babysitting. So so I want to go back to your town again. 430 people population. If I was to drive in, I don't know what the main drag is, I have no clue. But if I was to drive into, let's say I'm coming in from the north, I'm on the main drag, heading into town. What's the first thing I'm gonna see?

SPEAKER_03 15:44

Uh, you're gonna come into town. The first thing you're gonna see is gonna be on your left, and that'd be Mr. Chris's gas station.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

See, this is what I love because these small towns have these, you know, these little businesses like that. And that's cool. And is it the type of gas station where you can go in and get yourself um, you know, a snack, a soda, get a beer, whatever you need to do, and plus get gas? Is it one of those like a convenience?

SPEAKER_03 16:08

Uh no, his isn't. Actually, his is one of the stores that actually I've never been anywhere else that does this. He comes outside and pumps the gas for you.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I haven't seen that since I used to go and get gas with my dad. My dad's long gone, but I'm just telling you, when I was growing up, we'd pull into the gas station and you know, Michael would come out and say, hello, first name basis. What do you need? Fill it up, fill it up, check the oil, wash the window. Dude, that is so cool. That is that's small town living, and that is absolutely awesome. You gotta love that, and all that's probably inspired you to be the person you are, being brought up there and all that, which is really cool. Yes, sir. Very, very cool. Um,

Awards, The Opry, And Momentum

SPEAKER_00 16:54

I want you to tell everybody, I know you've won a bunch of awards growing up, teenager. You've won how many can you give us a quick rundown?

SPEAKER_03 17:03

So I've won the the four awards that I've won um that are music related. We'll leave football out of this. Um, but the four awards that I've won that are music related are um Georgia Country Teen Artist of the Year. So cool. For 20 2023, 2024, and 2025. Uh, and I actually hold the record for that. I'm the only artist to win it three years in a row.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Very cool. What is that? That tells you something right there. Because look at the people you would be up against, too. So there's there, you know, young men and women just like you trying to do the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

Yes, sir. Um, and then I won a Josie Music Award, right? Which uh for the listeners out there that don't know what the Josie Music Awards are, uh, they're like the Grammys for independent artists. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Very cool. Yeah, I know a lot about those. Very cool.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

The story behind that is it was my first year being nominated, right? We entered in and I actually got nominations, and being on being nominated is just an honor in itself. So we were already like ecstatic about that. And um so we went to the award show at the Grand Ole Opry. And so we were there, and I wasn't expecting to win because, like I said, it was my first year. I was still young in the industry. Uh, I still am young in the industry, but I was younger then. Um, but you know, I was young in the industry, and it was my first year being nominated. So we I didn't expect to win anything, but we went because it's such an honor to be nominated. So we made the trip up to Nashville uh to go to the award show. And we get there, and uh here comes the funny part of the story. I was nominated for five awards that year, and four of the five categories had gone by. So the big one was last, right? And I'm sitting there and they're like, I'm there's because it was artist of the year, you know, young adult male, which is under 18. Um, but it was like, there's no way I'm gonna win this. There's so many great people that are nominated, you know, they they've been doing this longer than I have. Like, I'm surely they'll win, right? So I had kind of like lost all hope, right? But I was still happy because I was nominated. Like it's still an honor to be nominated. So we're sitting probably five rows back from the stage at the grand old Opry.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

And they open the envelope and they go, Artist of the year, young adult male, Jonathan Hill Brown. And I'm not kidding when I tell you this, I forgot how to stand up and walk from my seat. I sat there and I was like, I need to get up. Um I love it though. Oh my god, that's so cool. So I got to go on stage at the grand old opery and accept my work.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Now we talked about the grand old opery. Uh, are you talking about the mother church right downtown? Is that where they had that? Or is that actually out at the out at the out at the opera? Yeah, okay. Yes, sir. Okay, because yeah, I I've been, you know, I'm in town a lot for different things, and we end up going over to the you know, right downtown to the opera there at the rhyme. Yes, sir. Yeah, no, man, that's just I get in there and it's like, wow. Yes, so cool. So cool. Have you uh been able to do anything on on the stage at the opera yet?

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Uh I have not. I would love to, but I have not have not quite made it there yet.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

You will though. Mark my word, you will. Yes, sir. Uh tell me about uh mama's music house.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

So mama's music house is my manager and vocal coach, uh Mama Jan. You might know that name from Justin Bieber, Usher, the band Perry, Matchbox 20.

unknown 21:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 21:13

The list goes on and on and on, right?

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

But yeah, um, so I actually started my musical journey there. Um, but how I got there, I'll tell you that story. So there's a couple of famous people from my hometown in Pike County, or the the same county I'm in, not Concord exactly, but same county I'm in. Uh one of them is Callista Clark.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

Um Calista.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

Yes, sir. Uh, but another one is whispering Bill Anderson. He's from Pike County as well. So um, but dad had reached out to Callista's mom and said, Um, who was Callista's vocal coach? And she told us. And it was Mama Jan. So we go and we try to get in with Mama Jan. Now, Mama Jan hand selects her her clients, right? Because she gets so many trying to come in that she she can't take everybody. So she she handpicks her clients and she has associates that have all been trained by her and are approved by her. That if you can't get in with her, you'll go to one of her associates. So the first time I did not get in with her. I got in with one of her associates. And I went there for a while and uh I took lessons with Vanessa. And uh I ended up going to a different vocal coach after that, and uh stayed there for a couple a little bit, but um we were getting ready to do some recording prep for a song that I have called Biggest Fan. And we were like, well, let's get into Mama Jan. So we tried again to get into Mama Jan.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

Mama Jan.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

Yeah, and we got in. So we went in and we were working on it, and we just kind of kept going back, you know. And even after the song was recorded, we just kind of kept going back and uh been going back ever since, and she's now my manager.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Very cool. Wow, what a great story! That's pretty awesome. That's pretty awesome. And Calista Clark, we've we've actually done a show here uh with her, so and just excellent. I mean, yes, definitely good stuff. Definitely good stuff. Um, so uh, you know, you wanted to. I I'm reading some of my notes here. You said you wanted to become a vocal athlete. What does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_03 23:41

Being a vocal athlete is you know, like a football player, they're not just a football player from August to February, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:53

It's all year.

SPEAKER_03 23:54

Yeah, it's all year. Yeah, that's that's being a vocal athlete is you know, staying in shape, um, you know, doing everything I can to get better for the next opportunities to come and the bigger opportunities to come.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Gotcha. So how do you um Jonathan? Oh, by the way, you know what I just noticed? Do you see it? Do you see the screen? No, no, not not there. Look at the screen. I spelled your name wrong.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

Oh, you did. I see that now.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

I'm sitting around going, doesn't look right. I do apologize for that. I'll talk to the I've talked to the graphic artist about that. Just saying, but uh yeah, and I know that too. Everywhere else it's right. I do apologize about that.

SPEAKER_03 24:39

That's okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

That's all me. Um, I'll take the wrap. Can't believe it on anybody.

Vocal Warmups And Show Stamina

SPEAKER_00 24:45

But um, you know, what do you when you do these shows that are three, four hours long, how do you protect your voice?

SPEAKER_03 24:52

Uh warming up and cooling down. So um, you know, if you think about it like running, uh, you don't just walk out your front door and go run a marathon. You stretch and you hydrate and you, you know, you prepare your body for what you're about to do. So warming up is kind of like the hydrating. Well, hydrating is a big part of you know constantly staying hydrated. Um, but warming up is kind of like the stretching before you run the race. And cooling down, you know, after the marathon, you don't just sit in your recliner and just lay there. No, you you cool your body down, you stretch out, you know, your muscles, and then you you kind of let your body cool down.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

Um, but you don't do that with the voice.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Yes, sir. It's the same thing. Your voice, your voice is just a muscle.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

I was um, we had a a show with Jelly Roll just a couple of nights ago. And we're yeah, we it was just unbelievable. But uh, we were hanging out backstage and he came down the hall and he was doing all the voice exercises. He was, you know, it's just all these weird noises. But what he was doing was, I guess, exercising the vocal cords. So it was it was like, wow, yeah, that's what you do. I totally get it. So pretty cool. Um, what's your pre-show routine like? Seeing, I mean, do you have a certain drink? Do you how do you how do you what is that? Just I'm not even gonna get that. Go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

Pre pre-show, pre-show routine. Uh okay, so I have two. I have band show, pre-show routine, and I bad show.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Wait a minute. What do you mean bad show?

SPEAKER_03 26:41

Well, some shows I do solo, just me acoustically, and then some I do with a band.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

Oh, I thought you said bad B A D show. I'm going, what is he talking about? A bad show. How do you know you're gonna have a bad show? I get a band show. Yes, sir. I got you. All right, go ahead. My bad.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

Again, so solo show. Um, I drink a full Stanley 40 ounce cup tumbler of water. Okay, wow, and then uh I warm up 30 minutes prior, and I warm up 30 whole minutes of straight warming up, straight exercising, vocalizing, like getting it ready, right? For the the three, four hours I'm fixing to do.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Is this something that Mama Jan um told you to do? Or yeah, okay. And a lot of people don't know that, and it it's pretty interesting hearing it from you.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

Uh she uh she actually explained it to me in terms that I understood. Um, I was also told to practice. So that's another thing that helps with longevity.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:43

Is if you practice, your body builds up the stamina of doing three hours, right? Um, so she told me that. So I was told by somebody else, just practice an hour a day. An hour a day, and you're good. But I was doing these three hour shows and my voice was just like going out, like it just couldn't handle three hours. And I remember, I remember this vividly too. Sitting down in Mama Jan's office and she looked at me and she goes, Son, you used to play football, right? I said, Yes, ma'am. And she goes, How long were your practices? And I was like, two hours, you know, because normally we did like four to six. Um, so like two hours, sometimes an hour and a half if we cut it short. She goes, How long were your games? And I was like, Well, games are only like an hour, 45 minutes to an hour, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

And she goes, Why is this any different? Why would you practice shorter than you're gonna play? And it it blew my mind.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

Yeah, I mean, it's a good point.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

Yeah, it clicked right there. Wow, so that um doing that every day.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

It makes it easy when uh she puts it in those terms. She knows a little bit about you, what you've been doing, playing football, and then she kind of brings it all together. Say if you can do this, you can do this.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Wow, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

But band shows, right? A little bit different. So I warm up the same, okay, but um I have uh have a tendency to do some jumping jacks and uh just some just stand just standing jumping before I go on stage just to kind of get my blood pumping and uh get the get the nervousness out and get uh get my adrenaline going, you know, just kind of so I can get ready to put on a show with the band and uh make it the highest energy I possibly can.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

Yeah, I was gonna ask, so let's talk about a full band show. Is that I now you've already mentioned a lot of energy, a lot of um just running around that stage and getting the crowd into it, and the crowd's getting you into it, and that's what I assume that's what it's like, right? Yes, sir. And you have your own band? Yes, sir. I do. You do. Okay, very cool. Are these guys that you've known for a good number of years, or did you put them together or just uh no, I've been together.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Um so I didn't uh these aren't guys I've known for a whole bunch of years. Uh actually uh we met when I reached out to look for band mates. Um, you know, I reached out to some churches and uh I got my drummer now. We had to we moved my bass player to drums, so he's my drummer now, but he was my bass player. Um we moved him because I got another bass player in. Um, but so you know, I just kind of reached out and uh met these guys through each other. So um my piano player who was killer, um he I met him through a guitar player. And uh the guitar player reached out to me and asked, you know, hey, I see you're putting together a band I'd like to join. And uh he did. So and we we were looking for a piano player at the same time, and he's like, Well, I got this friend, and so I these are people that I've met through other people in the band.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

You've been uh playing long gigs for about five years, yes, and uh which is a lot of stage time for somebody your age. What has the road taught you?

SPEAKER_03 31:22

Be prepared for I guess, yeah. Um I can't tell you how many times I've gotten a drunken play free bird from the back of the room.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

That might have been me. Um just I have no idea. Uh, but but still, I know, I know, I hear you there.

SPEAKER_03 31:40

Uh be prepared, you know, because there's um a lot of stuff that's gonna happen at these shows, and uh it doesn't matter if you make a mistake, if you the audience doesn't know you made a mistake, right?

SPEAKER_00 31:54

You don't want to draw attention to it, only you do, right? Uh for example, my spelling on the on the graphic. Yes, sir. So I made I brought it to somebody's attention. Now everybody knows, but I would bet that if I never said anything, most people wouldn't notice.

SPEAKER_03 32:10

Yes, sir. Um, the audience only knows you made a mistake if you let them know you made a mistake. Um, if you forget if you forget the words to a verse, sing the verse you already sung. Do it again over again. Nobody's gonna know they're gonna sing right along with you like nothing happened.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

Have you done that?

SPEAKER_03 32:31

Do I have to admit it? Can I please I get it?

SPEAKER_00 32:34

You know, if you here's the deal. If you told me no, I never did that, I wouldn't believe you. Because I've been around long enough and I've talked to enough artists, and I know you're human, you're just like everybody else. Yeah, I mean, even though you know you're pretty young yet. Uh but uh yeah, I get it. I totally get it. Totally get it. And how do you handle those moments when somebody's in the back of the room that's drunk off their ass yelling free bird?

SPEAKER_03 32:58

You just um I don't want to say ignore it, but just move on. Yeah, just move on. Um, you know, I kind of when that when that happens, I kind of I kind of play it off. I'm like, you come put five hundred dollars in this tip bucket and I'll play free.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

I'll play free bird. Good move. Good move.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

Yeah, then they they don't say anything else the rest of the show.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

And speaking about the uh the tip bucket, they you go down it uh when you do spend time in Nashville, do you go down to Broadway?

Band Life, Broadway, And Writing Craft

SPEAKER_00 33:27

Do you have you had a chance to do anything on stage? For example, I have a friend of mine that plays the Tootsie's, it's it's just a side gig, and they they have the uh the tip jar, and you know, somebody said for 200 bucks, you know, I'll you put 200 bucks in there, I'll sing Friends in Little Places. Yes, um, but uh have you had that opportunity?

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Okay, I have I've played Tootsie's um back in the back room. I've played um a couple of shows there actually. Uh played a few places on Broadway, played Chiefs.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

Um dude, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 34:01

Uh a few a few other places on Broadway that I've actually played. Um and you know it's it's really fun, but mostly what I do when I go up to Nashville is writers' rounds, which is where a bunch of songwriters all get on stage and sing songs that we've written.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Yep, that's cool. I I've sat in on a few of those, and just to watch how all that goes down creating song when you think about it, it's the magic. And it just people like yourself and other artists and writers getting together. Maybe it's the body language, maybe it's somebody says they just say a line and you build off that, and then different chords and stuff like that. I mean, yes, well, how how is it? How does your creativity come out?

SPEAKER_03 34:48

Uh, my creativity comes out in mostly lyrics. Um, you know, if somebody says something, I can take that and turn it into a way that you know you can write it into a song, right? So um I'm more of a lyrical person like that um than I am a melodic and chord structured person. Um I'm still I'm still learning that side of songwriting. Um, but that's uh that's really where my strength is right now is lyrically taking it and rhyming it or making it say some type of feeling.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

I love that. Tell me a little bit about Biggest Fan, because I listened to that before we sat down here tonight. I that's a just uh I hadn't heard that before. I'll be totally honest with you. I had no idea. And you know, I know what the new song is, and we're gonna play that. I said right in the beginning, we're gonna play it here in a minute. Goodbye, it looks like. But um, tell me about Biggest Fan and what made that song the right one for you to record.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

So, Biggest Fan um has been my biggest music video so far. Um you know, it was my first one too. Uh, but Biggest Fan was actually sent to me by a friend of mine, Mr. Kevin Lee. He wrote the song. He lived in Texas at the time, but he wrote the song, and um, he sent it to me, and he was like, Would you consider cutting this song? And me and dad were driving down the road, and I heard it, and I was like, I would love to cut this song. It is it's a great song. Um, and so we ended up cutting the song, and that's how I got into Mama Jan was we went into her to get recording prep for that song.

SPEAKER_00 36:45

Wow, great. And I have a question, yes, sir. Whose car were you driving in that video? That was it looked like the Camaro SS.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

It was, it was a uh 1969 Camaro I knew it was the 69.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

I saw it in the video and I went, oh my god, is that was that your dad's, or where did you get the car?

SPEAKER_03 37:04

No, I wish it was. Uh it was a friend of dad's. Um a guy that was cool. It was cool. It was. Um a guy actually tried to sell it to us, and uh, I wanted it, but I didn't have the money to buy it.

SPEAKER_00 37:18

So I would have wanted it, yeah, exactly. A friend of mine had uh, it was just like that. That's what I noticed it right away, had one of those, and it was the coolest. It was the coolest. And I actually had a uh 69 super sport, it was a Chevelle, so yeah, and uh stupid me got rid of it because I was young and foolish at the time. I should have held on to it, but uh, you know, hey, I I was your age.

SPEAKER_03 37:44

I would have loved to have a 69 SS at my age.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

Oh my god, and it was four, it was uh had a hearst shifter. I don't know. Do you know much about cars at all?

SPEAKER_03 37:53

I do, so that's actually one of my hobbies is learning. Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

I was gonna ask you what your hobbies were, but it had a hearst um I think shifter, and uh, you know, it had uh the RPM uh oh my god, we used to drag race it. Yes, thank you. Okay, we used to drag race it. So it was just it was my toy, and I got in a lot of trouble with it too. So I'm just saying, but uh it's a it was a big part of my life, absolutely. Now I've gotten old and I get the chance to talk to up-and-coming artists like yourself. Uh you have a great future. Shh, life's right upstairs, and you never know. It might end up in the driveway. I don't know. Uh, you never know. I might come home someday, but uh, I might be uh calling you up and saying, dude, you want to rent a room? Because that's how it goes. So, anyways, with biggest fan, um, you recorded that in Nashville. Yes, sir. Um, and Smith Curry was there. Uh, what was the studio experience like?

SPEAKER_03 38:49

The studio for that one was amazing. So we recorded the instruments for that one at uh Omni Sound in Nashville, uh, before they tore it down. Um, but that was a very like very prestigious studio. They recorded people like Morgan, uh, not Morgan Mollin, sorry, Miranda Lambert. Um, I think there was a Martina McBride, a Faith Hill in there. Uh, there was some some very big names on the wall in that studio. And uh we got to record it there, and it it just kind of came to life, you know. We I let Smith hear the demo, and uh he was like, Okay. And he got this uh this group of amazing musicians together, and he was like, All right, guys, this is how the song goes. What are your ideas? You know, and they they all kind of put it together, and uh, I love the drummer, the drummer's idea of the pa pa right at the beginning. That um that really caught me, and I was like, putting that in the song, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

See, and that I've heard this from other artists as well. When you get musicians together like that, the stuff they come up with, they are so smart and they are so good that you just just said this is what I want to do, and they do it. I mean, it's it's just amazing. It blows me away that they can catch on so quick and do such a great job. And they get it, you know, you get in the studio and you need some musicians, and there they are. I mean, do you have a wave? I heard a steel guitar in in the song as well, right? Yes, sir. I am in love with that. Yes, I love the steel. Man, do you have the steel with you uh when you're out on the road with the band?

SPEAKER_03 40:26

No, I do not. I do not have a steel player.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

I love the steel.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

Uh maybe eventually, you know, when we start doing stadium tours, we'll get we'll get a steel player.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

Stadium tours. I love it. I love it. You know what you need to do, and uh one thing, and I mentioned that Jelly was in town just a couple of nights ago, but uh he he gives a new artist a chance to open up for him. You just let him know that you want to do that, and if he likes you, you're good to go. Uh, they had it was it Sonny Black? Do you know Sonny was just amazing? Uh, I can't think of the other gentleman's name, but uh Sonny just blew me away. Um, just amazing. And as a matter of fact, the artist I had on the podcast last night said, Yeah, he's one of my best friends, and blah blah. So we got talking about that a little bit. So that was pretty cool. Um, what's what's your next big goal?

SPEAKER_03 41:17

My next big goal, I would say, is to go on tour with somebody. Uh, you know, go on tour with somebody like Jelly Roll.

SPEAKER_00 41:24

I was gonna say, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

Luke Combs, Morgan Wallen, Jason Aldean, uh, Luke Bryan. I feel like Luke Bryan would be a lot of fun to go on tour.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

It would be a lot of fun, and you could get in a lot of trouble. But no, it would be a lot of fun. But uh how does an artist like you go about getting on these tours?

SPEAKER_03 41:43

Um well, you it's kind of hard. Um, you know, you gotta somebody's gotta talk to somebody else's manager, and somebody talks to somebody who talks to somebody who talks to somebody else, yes, sir. Yeah, yes, sir. You just gotta you gotta get somebody to hear you and put you in front of that person.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Yeah, have you ever thought, and I I'm actually I'm not dropping names, but I'm friends with Drew Baldridge. And have you like what he does, if you reach out to him, tell him who you are and what you're doing. I mean, he's looking for people to come on his tour or go out with him, you know, and he wants somebody like you, like an independent artist, young independent artist, because he feels that they they should be seen, they should be heard, and he's willing to give them that shot. So I don't know if you as an artist would want to, you know, just reach out to or I'm sure you're on Facebook and Insta and TikTok and all that. So I mean they're on there, and uh that's where I first saw it. So Drew was saying, hey, I'm looking for independent artists. If you want to go on, you know, I'm willing to put you on ahead of me, which is cool.

SPEAKER_03 42:53

So absolutely, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

Yeah, you you tell the folks from grassroots that Skip said, and somebody needs to reach out.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

So okay.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

Oh man, so where do you see yourself five years from now?

SPEAKER_03 43:08

Five years from now, I can see myself um on my own tour. Um I don't I don't know about stadiums quite yet, uh, in five years, maybe a small arena tour. That's all right, that's all right. But uh in five years, that's where I see myself as starting to take my own fan base with me and um have other artists opening up for me.

SPEAKER_00 43:36

I love it. You know what I'm gonna do right now because we've been chatting, I'm just gonna do a little bit of this just so you can hear.

Playing The Single And Radio Tour

SPEAKER_00 43:44

Uh this is the latest single. Goodbye, it looks like. Let's play it. Let's play it for a moment. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

Make you through a friend of a friend that night I knew I had to see you again. Next week we were running round town, try to find trouble to get into. Everybody said we would picture perfectly not face to know worth it. Holding on every minute. Like they were all that we were getting. Now looking back at where we had it right. That's looking like that's all the radio. Yes, that's what goodbye looks like.

SPEAKER_00 44:52

That is what it sounds like. Now, if you want the whole thing, you gotta go online and get it. I'm just saying, and and I'm gonna get yelled at from um the internet gods about uh you'll probably get a notice that did you give this guy permission to play this song? But uh, you know, but that's it. Yes, we do. You have permission. All right, and goodbye looks like, and uh that is that is the name of that, and that's the the single you're working right now. Is uh as I mentioned, you're out there on the radio tour. Um, is this the first part of a radio tour? Is this the very first for you doing this?

SPEAKER_03 45:26

This is this is the first radio tour that I've ever done.

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:29

Um, we started we started Tuesday up in Paintsville, Kentucky, and uh we went from Paintsville to Lawrence, uh Lawrenceburg to Louisville, uh Tennessee. Um Lawrence Lawrenceburg and Louisville are both in Tennessee, and then we came down to Florence, uh, Alabama, and then we went from Florence to Center, and uh right now we're in Fort Payne, and uh I'm gonna get up in the morning and go do Internet.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

Morning show.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

Yes, sir, in Fort Payne, Alabama, and then uh another one in Blue Ridge, Georgia, and that'll be the end.

SPEAKER_00 46:11

Yeah, and how many miles of this week yeah, of this week. So, this this part of the radio tour, did you figure out like approximate mileage?

SPEAKER_03 46:20

Uh I haven't I could probably add it all up once I get home, and I'll probably feel pretty bad about it. It's like holy crap.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

But uh so after this radio tour, do you have another one or you do you wait a little bit?

SPEAKER_03 46:37

Uh so actually after this week, um I get a week off to be at home.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

And then the next week, I'm going on another one. Um and we're going from Maryland down through the Virginias, uh, North Carolina, South Carolina, back into Georgia.

SPEAKER_00 46:56

No New York. No, sir. Um I bring you into the pod zone. We do it all over again. We could. We could. Well, you let me know if you come up into the northeast, and we'll definitely get you hooked up. Um, so uh Jonathan, um, first concert you ever attended.

Favorites, Hobbies, Advice, And Future Plans

SPEAKER_03 47:16

Uh, first concert was actually Thomas Rhett. Um Thomas Rhett and Cole Swindell, both Georgia boys. Uh they did the uh coming home tour or going home tour. Um and uh it was at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville. Wow, is where uh me and dad went. And then uh my second one was Morgan Wallen at uh Nissan Stadium in Nashville, and that concert was insane. I mean, they had Bailey Zimmerman, Nate Smith, yeah, Morgan Wallen, Lauren Watkins. I mean, it was it was a uh knockout show, and it was great.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

Watching watching either one of those shows, what were you thinking?

SPEAKER_03 48:03

I want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 48:05

That should be me. Yes, exactly. I love that. I love that. Uh, favorite country song of all time. I know that's a hard question. There's so many great songs. I hate it when somebody would ask, hey, you know, you're working radio and you play all this music, which one's your favorite?

SPEAKER_03 48:20

I don't have a favorite. I I can't say I don't have a favorite.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

Uh dream duet partner.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

I was asked this the other day.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

I bet.

SPEAKER_03 48:32

If I could bring uh uh somebody back from the dead, do they have to be alive now or can I bring it no?

SPEAKER_00 48:38

Let's do both. Let's do both. So if you could bring somebody back from the dead, who would it be?

SPEAKER_03 48:42

Keith Whitley.

SPEAKER_00 48:45

Last night I got the exact same answer.

SPEAKER_03 48:48

Really?

SPEAKER_00 48:48

Yes, yes, absolutely. How about alive?

SPEAKER_03 48:52

Ooh, alive or Luke Holmes.

SPEAKER_00 48:55

Very cool. Luke's such a cool down earth guy, too. Um favorite place you've played so far?

SPEAKER_03 49:04

Favorite place I've played so far would be the Fayetteville Amphitheater last year when I opened up for Chris Lane.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

Very, very nice, very cool. And uh, what's your best uh scene around the road? Uh gas station snack.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Okay. I got it down to the science.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

I bet. And would mom agree with you?

SPEAKER_03 49:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

So um there's this uh it depends on what you're in the mood for, right? If you want like some chips, okay, they make uh Met RX makes these protein chips, they're like little little uh like rice chips, and they're delicious. I always get the barbecue flavor so good. You can't like delicious. Um, and there's like 20 grams of protein for a bag, and I'm like, these are great. Like I could sit there and that would be like dinner. That'd be awesome. Really? I'd be great.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

Now, what are they again? Say it again.

SPEAKER_03 50:08

Met RX protein chips.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

I'm writing it down. Protein chips.

SPEAKER_03 50:17

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:19

Uh they got a whole bunch of different flavors. Um, but if you're in the mood for like a beef jerky something, yeah, there's this company out in uh I think it's Texas, is where they're based, called No Man's Land. Uh and they have a beef stick called the Maverick. And it's it's delicious. It's it's the best beef stick that I've found.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

Wow, definitely. Sounds good.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

Eat beef jerky's pretty. I enjoy it. Do you hunt? Yes, sir. And what do you hunt?

SPEAKER_03 50:53

Deer, mostly. That's that's mostly what's around us in Georgia.

SPEAKER_00 50:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Um what about hogs?

SPEAKER_03 51:00

Sir.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

Uh they have um the hogs, the pigs, hogs, what do they call those?

SPEAKER_03 51:06

We don't have a lot of those around where we live. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

All right.

SPEAKER_03 51:08

They are they are there, um, but like around the house, we don't really have any.

SPEAKER_00 51:14

I gotcha. I gotcha. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

I mean, I you could go down the road and there would be some because I mean I've had friends that have had them in their yard and stuff before. Yeah, you know, across the do a lot of damage.

SPEAKER_00 51:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:25

They do, they do. Um, but for the most part, we don't really have a lot of them. Um, you know, maybe two or three every now and then. Nothing really really um crazy about the hogs. But I've been squirrel hunting, rabbit hunting.

SPEAKER_00 51:42

Um do you put them in the freezer?

SPEAKER_03 51:47

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

Well, if we can shoot them.

SPEAKER_03 51:52

I haven't I haven't either. Um I never I haven't haven't got one yet. Okay. Um I've only been squirrel hunting one time.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 52:02

Uh it was when I was little. Dad took me uh we woke up early before church on Sunday morning and uh went squirrel hunting. Yeah. Um but uh that was fun, but we didn't get anything. Yeah. Um but deer put in the freezer.

SPEAKER_00 52:20

Yeah. Do you have any head on the wall? No, sir, I don't. No. What's the biggest deer you've gotten?

SPEAKER_03 52:27

Uh mostly just does. I've never killed a bug. All right. Um but I've killed a doe someday before. And uh, yes, sir. Um, I've killed a doe before, uh, just one uh one doe. Gotcha. With music, it's kind of hard to find time to actually.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

Yeah, no, I know, I get that. I get that. And that's one of the reasons I'm asking because you need sometimes you just need to do other things. And you have a hobby, you may want to go out hunting, fishing, uh, a little bit of boating or something just to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 52:59

I do go fishing a lot. Um actually, we have a um it's peaceful a tradition. Me and dad and a guy that we used to go to church with um go down to Louisiana every year and we go redfish and trout fishing.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

Wow, very cool.

SPEAKER_03 53:18

Yes, very cool.

unknown 53:20

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 53:20

What is um Jonathan quickly, uh, what what's the best advice you've ever received?

SPEAKER_03 53:29

Best advice I've ever received. Well, other than other than the nobody knows you messed up unless you let them know you messed up. Um the best advice I ever received is this is gonna sound you know kind of tacky, but Rome wasn't built in a day, right? So I've had I've been told that a few times, and really it's it wasn't, you know, there's people think artists just appear overnight, you know, like their overnight successes, right? But it took Taylor Swift 10 years to be an overnight success. I mean, she was hard at work, hard at work in Nashville, hard at work in Pennsylvania where she's from.

SPEAKER_00 54:14

Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:15

Like it it took her 10, 12 years to be an overnight success. Um, yeah, so it does take time.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

Yeah, same thing with McGraw, just so you know, it took him like 13 years in Nashville before anything ever really happened. Uh, if you weren't doing music, what do you think you'd be doing?

SPEAKER_03 54:34

I'd be doing this. Um I think I can't really imagine myself doing anything else other than music.

SPEAKER_00 54:42

I got you. Um that's cool, man. You you're very into it. You're very like, this is what I'm gonna do, and whatever it takes, I'm gonna make it work.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

And you have the support of your family, which is the best, and you have your faith, always. So that's you know, with the Lord watching over you and all this and making sure things go right, it's excellent. Excellent. We've been chatting with uh Jonathan Hillbroom, brown Hill Brown, and see I'm thinking about it now. I'm looking at the graphic too. Jonathan Hill Brown, uh independent artist, and um, he comes from uh Georgia, and he's out there doing his thing.

Where To Find Him And Subscribe

SPEAKER_00 55:20

And the the radio tour, he's got a song that's coming out. Somebody wants to get a hold of the music. Where can they go?

SPEAKER_03 55:26

Well, they can look it up on all streaming platforms. If you can get music there, my song is on there. Um, it's you know, just Jonathan Hill Brown spelled the same way it is on the screen, except with an O instead of an A at the end of my first name. Do not draw attention to my mistakes.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, it's my fault.

SPEAKER_03 55:45

Uh, you can actually just like this right here.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

That's it. Yep, yep, yep. And everywhere else I did do that. I don't understand what I was thinking.

unknown 55:54

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 55:55

Um, but uh you can find all my music right there. Um just spell that into wherever you stream music, and you can find it, and you can find myself on all social medias at this name, then add a little music right here at the end. Um, and you can find me on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, all that good stuff. And uh you'll stay up to date for upcoming shows, new music drops. And if you want me to play a show near you, reach out to me with a place that you would like me to play, and I will try my best to get up there. I'm on it out to wherever you are.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

We might be able to work something out, you know what I'm saying. So, which which would be really cool because I would love to have you. Um, I think you know, you're very talented. You the songs, it just totally blew me away. I was listening to it earlier when we first came on. Um, just definitely good stuff. Uh, Jonathan, thank you for your time. Uh hanging out, absolutely hanging out, chatting with you, and it's so much fun to get to know people like you. Uh, just starting out, it's your passion, it's your dream, you're dedicated to your craft, and uh, certainly hope it's a lot of work. It is, and uh certainly hope that you uh get to enjoy the fruits of your labor as you get a little bit later on, and uh you know you gotta get the wheels rolling, and it looks like you're doing that. So that's that's cool. I'd love to have you back again, too. You need to keep me updated. Skip happens, and I promise next time that will be spelled right. Oh, I did it again. I did it again. I know. Uh, I want you to stay right there, but uh, I need to say goodbye. Thank you for watching. Subscribe at Skip Happens on uh YouTube, and uh, you know, give us just click the little thingy and uh subscribe, as I mentioned, and uh there's a whole lot of great videos on there as well, and people just like uh Jonathan here. So, Jonathan, thank you for joining us. Uh good luck on the the radio tour. And uh, you know, this is kind of uh, you know, the way I do it, I love doing this because, in a sense, you're in the northeast right now, which is really cool. So you're you're getting it all covered. And uh we'd love to catch up again. All right, have a great night, my friend. I want you to stay right there. And uh as soon as I find the little thingy here. But uh thank you. Stay right there.

SPEAKER_03 58:16

Yes, sir.